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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

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I'm a bit annoyed at how straight-forward, without any kind of twists or turns, or really any kind of development the "plot-of-the-week's" are:


A) The crew needs to retrieve the spore device from the wreck of the Glenn. They beam aboard. Find the device. Run away from a monster. Get to their shuttle and fly back. Plot solved.

B) They need to bring the spore drive to work, to save a mining colony from a klingon attack. They use the stuff and the monster from the Glenn, and it works. They fly to the colony. They battle the klingons. Plot solved.

C) Cpt. Lorca get's ambushed while flying a shuttle. He meets other prisoners in a cell. He punches the klingons once they walk into the cell. They run through the corridors guns-blazing, steal a shuttle and fly back to the Discovery. Plot solved.


I'm missing a certain level of intrigue. Something beyond the bare bones of the plot. Some neat ideas to expand on these plot ideas. Which is especially annoying, since hints to that are clearly there! For example the klingons on the Glenn. This culd have been a superb sub-plot if handled right! Imagine that: Two warring fractions aboard an abandoned ship, together with a monster. Imagine if our Federation heroes needed to work together with the klingons to survive. Built trust with the enemy, while everyone is perfectly aware everyone is willing to stab the other in the back as soon as the possibility arises. And then have the twist that the monster, against which the two sides have aligned together against, really isn't a "monster", but just another "faction" fighting for survival as well. This could have been a really tense three-way factions thriller, with shifting aliances, predjudices, and people banding together and outwitting each other, akin to "The good, the bad, and the ugly". Instead, the klingon appereance was limited to a "shush"-joke, and a bath'let on the ground.

It's not that the plots themselves are bad. But they are pretty standard-clichéd Trek. They need expansion. They need improvement, maybe more time to breath, more focus, and certainly added details to amplify these 08/15-stories. It's not that it's bad. It isn't. But it's such a high level of wasted potential, it's really a shame. What saves it for me for now is the character interactions, especially the trio Burnham-Saru-Stamets, whom I already am a pretty big fan of. But this show needs improvement in their plotting and storytelling.
 
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You still don't get it, do you? We're actually paying for this show. So people who have paid, aren't going to be silent. Any more than someone panning a movie they paid to see.
Well, sure, you're obviously allowed to do that. In fact, I think the diversity of opinions is a good thing in general.

But, it's not something I'd do. I mean, sheesh, pay for a show that I don't like just so I can grumble to others?! At least a movie is a one time event. :wtf:

Knock yourself out though.
 
No one is making you pay for it.
If someone pays in advance for a product, anticipating something great, and that product ends up not meeting their expectations, what are they supposed to do?

If I pay for a take-out order, take it home and then discover that the food is mediocre, I'm still going to eat it! And then I'll probably post a bad review online, too.

Kor
 
So are you gonna be the guy that watches every week and then come here to let everyone know how much they hate it?
Ummm, you must be new here. Hi, this is a Trek forum. Bitching and moaning is what all true Trek fans are expected to do. It's says so on the Trek Membership Card. "We boldly go to bitch and moan"
 
There is enough male WASP syndrome in Star Trek as it is.
Not accurate. As religion is effectively dead in Roddenberry's utopia, and the "P" in "WASP" stands for "Protestant", the best you're likely to get by the 23rd century is "WAS". And as it's not entirely clear in this utopian one-world government if Anglo Saxons are even a thing any more, it really should be just "W".

I knew it! It's all still George W. Bush's fault 200 years into the future! I have proof! Someone call Alex Jones! :p
 
It's not that the plots themselves are bad. But they are pretty standard-clichéd Trek. They need expansion.

I agree pretty much with what you say. I do think that while they seem to be fairly standard Trek plots, they are carried out in an entertaining manner, so I don't really have any complaints but I agree that it would be great if they can expand it. I get the sense that they will in upcoming plots.

We really don't know where this season is heading other than a general sense that the war will end somehow. But, we have no idea how. I'd imagine, or at least hope, that they'll expand on a log along the way. I wish they didn't cap the episodes at 42 minutes. I like how GoT varies their lengths but usually it's a good solid hour without commercials. I suppose we're getting more episodes than the standard GoT season though.
 
Greatly enjoyed the episode for the most part. Saru and Stamets are coming into their own and having more important things to do. Still waiting for the depth characters on the bridge to be fleshed out.

Apparently Lorca has never seen an episode of Star Trek before; never ride a shuttle as means of transport between destinations. Something bad will ALWAYS happen. ESPECIALLY if you're going to/coming from a Starfleet Medical Conference.
 
So are you gonna be the guy that watches every week and then come here to let everyone know how much they hate it? Are you going to be the Stewey of the Enterprise forum?
You still don't get it, do you? We're actually paying for this show. So people who have paid, aren't going to be silent. Any more than someone panning a movie they paid to see.
Oh, I get it. So only one more week of this, until the first month subscription expires. Surely they won't renew, right?
 
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