Ranking the eps so far and where does DSC rank now amongst the other series?

[Roald]

For me, the eps so far:

1. Choose Your Pain
2. Context is for Kings
3. The Butcher's Knife
4. Battle At The Binairy Stars
5. The Vulcan Hello

Where does DSC rank as of now (I know it's nearly impossible, and it can change as the series progresses):

1. TNG
2. TOS
3. DSC
4. DS9
5. VOY
6. ENT

I love ALL episodes so far and ALL series btw!

You can add a new episode to your list when one is aired!

 

[Wowbagger]

Hm, eps so far...

1. Context Is For Kings
2.The first 15 minutes of The Vulcan Hello
3. The Butcher's Knife Cares Not For The Lamb's Cry (largely because of the title, I admit)
4. Choose Your Pain
5. The rest of The Vulcan Hello
6. Battle at the Binary Stars

Series ranks:

1. DS9
2. TOS
3. TNG
4. ENT
5. VOY
6. TAS
7. DSC

6 and 7 were a tough call, I admit. I could go either way. Hopefully DSC improves as it ages. Every modern Trek would do quite poorly if judged solely on the strength of its first 6 episodes, so I'm not shocked to see DSC languishing near the bottom of my list right now.

But I really need them to remember what Star Trek is about for ten minutes, instead of just being thirteen-year-old edgelords trying to "question" a system of ideals they've made no visible effort to understand or express. If the show remains Star Trek Galactica, it's never going to be a show I care for, and that saddens me.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

In the context of just five episodes, this is how they all rank for me.

TOS
DS9
DIS
VOY
ENT
TNG

Not gonna rank episodes themselves though. I never do that.

 

[alex08060]

1. VOY
2. TNG
3. DS9
4. DSC - Too new
5. TOS - Too 60s
6. ENT

 

[dahj]

I refuse to rank anything until Burnham gets her rank back.

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

Episode rankings:

Choose Your Pain
Context is for Kings
The Vulcan Hello
The Battle at the Binary Stars
The Butcher’s Knife Cares Not for the Lamb’s Cry

Bearing in mind that we are judging SOLELY on where each series was five episodes in, I rank the series as follows:

TOS
DSC
DS9
ENT
VGR
TNG

Yes, TNG is at the bottom and DSC is second. It’s not a perfect show by any means and there are some concerns I have. But when it comes to writing, acting, visuals and a sense of purpose, DSC has had the strongest start. Whether it will build on that remains to be seen. TNG got its act together and if we were judging the series by their entire run, it would be second or third. But by the first five episodes alone? TNG loses big time.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

dunno if can rank the episodes but to judge the series based on each being five episodes in?

DS9
STD
TNG
TOS
VOY
ENT

 

[Refuge]

I can rank what I've seen, but not individual episodes .. plus to be fair Discovery is early days.

Voyager
The Original Series (thought I was over it and then re-watched a few and I'm onboard again)
Next Generation
DS9 (got to put it somewhere)

Enterprise I can't judge.
Discovery is weak.

 

[BillJ]

Isn't it a bit too early to really be judging the show in comparison to others?

 

[GeekUSACarl]

Isn't it a bit too early to really be judging the show in comparison to others?

i took it as based on each one being only 5 in.

 

[Tesophius]

I assume we're judging the series in their entirety and not just based on the first five episodes.

1.TOS
2.TNG
3.ENT
4.VGR
5.DS9 (I'm in the second season, watching it for the first time)
6.STD

However, my rankings change with time, I used to prefer ENT over all else. In the last few years though I find myself coming back to TOS time and time again and finding that it still epouses the boldest ideas in the Trek universe.

 

[Blamo]

Pretty much have to go with the Ops ranking for episodes:-
1. Choose Your Pain
2. Context is for Kings
3. The Butcher's Knife
4. Battle At The Binairy Stars
5. The Vulcan Hello

As for series:-
1. DS9
2. TNG
3. TOS Movies
4. DSC
5. TOS
6. TNG Movies
7. ENT
8. VGR

I know I included the movies, but I see them as a series of their own.

 

[eschaton]

In the context of just five episodes, this is how they all rank for me.

TOS
DS9
DIS
VOY
ENT
TNG

Not gonna rank episodes themselves though. I never do that.

That's the exact ranking I would pick judging on the first five episodes alone. Although I would have a hard time between VOY/ENT, as they both had flawed but entertaining pilots and then a string of boring, mediocre episodes. Which makes sense, because the first two seasons of Enterprise were just Voyager with a different crew.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Isn't it a bit too early to really be judging the show in comparison to others?

i took it as based on each one being only 5 in.

I initiated that first because I think it is unfair to judge the first five episodes of DIS with the entirety of everything else. It also helps provide context for where previous shows were in their initial run. TNG's awful beginnings is a big reason why I'm not willing to write off DIS as a whole like so many angry nerds like those on Midnight's Edge who come off so vindictive it's embarrassing to listen.

 

[McDuff]

I initiated that first because I think it is unfair to judge the first five episodes of DIS with the entirety of everything else. It also helps provide context for where previous shows were in their initial run. TNG's awful beginnings is a big reason why I'm not willing to write off DIS as a whole like so many angry nerds like those on Midnight's Edge who come off so vindictive it's embarrassing to listen.

Yes, but I feel like TNG was a trend setter. Something harder to come up with. It provided something more different and original than Discovery. Discovery is a typical action-adventure series set up in space. While TNG set itself up as very special kind of sci-fi tv series exploring every facets of humanity, our society, impact of new technologies and the future. It was written by people who had something to say about the current state of humanity, our society, moral values, etc, viewed through sci-fi lens. Destiny is a great action-adventure series in the same vein as other J.J. Abrams movies like the first Star Trek movie.

 

[ichab]

I give the edge so far to TOS because they had so few clunkers that first year. The first episode of DIS was just plain dreadful and the second episode was only slightly better. However episodes 3-5 have been awesome. Still head and shoulders above the rest as TNG,DS9,Voy and ENT had bad first seasons.

1.) TOS
2.) DIS
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4. ENT (great pilot. All down hill from there)
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5.) Put TNG and VOY however you wish. Boring pilots along with bland and predictable episodes afterward.

 

[eschaton]

Yes, but I feel like TNG was a trend setter. Something harder to come up with. It provided something more different and original than Discovery. Discovery is a typical action-adventure series set up in space. While TNG set itself up as very special kind of sci-fi tv series exploring every facets of humanity, our society, impact of new technologies and the future. It was written by people who had something to say about the current state of humanity, our society, moral values, etc, viewed through sci-fi lens. Destiny is a great action-adventure series in the same vein as other J.J. Abrams movies like the first Star Trek movie.

Based on the first five episodes of TNG, I don't know how you could say that.

Encounter at Farpoint - Horrible pilot, wooden acting, terrible pacing and script. John DeLancie is its only saving grace.
The Naked Now - Blatant ripoff/sequel of a TOS episode.
Code of Honor - Horrendously racist (albeit apparently unintentionally) planet of hats episode. Not even fun if you ignore that.
The Last Outpost - Boring episode which marks the first attempt to make the Ferengi into villains, and is totally poorly executed.
Where No One Has Gone Before - First genuinely decent episode of the series, but it's not original, since it's a reworking of a TOS novel.

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

The Last Outpost - Boring episode which marks the first attempt to make the Ferengi into villains, and is totally poorly executed.

The Ferengi as presented in this episode are probably the worst introduction of any recurring race, ever. Thankfully they re-purposed them and toned down their constant capering and cowering.

 

[ichab]

Yes, but I feel like TNG was a trend setter. Something harder to come up with. It provided something more different and original than Discovery....While TNG set itself up as very special kind of sci-fi tv series exploring every facets of humanity, our society, impact of new technologies and the future. It was written by people who had something to say about the current state of humanity, our society, moral values, etc, viewed through sci-fi lens.

TOS did all that 20 years earlier and much better. Sorry. TNG was just repeating what TOS did(hence the title Next Generation) albeit in a more bland and predictable way.

 

[McDuff]

Based on the first five episodes of TNG, I don't know how you could say that.

Encounter at Farpoint - Horrible pilot, wooden acting, terrible pacing and script. John DeLancie is its only saving grace.
The Naked Now - Blatant ripoff/sequel of a TOS episode.
Code of Honor - Horrendously racist (albeit apparently unintentionally) planet of hats episode. Not even fun if you ignore that.
The Last Outpost - Boring episode which marks the first attempt to make the Ferengi into villains, and is totally poorly executed.
Where No One Has Gone Before - First genuinely decent episode of the series, but it's not original, since it's a reworking of a TOS novel.

That's a fair point. You didn't like the episodes. But I still feel they were trying to do something more than an action-adventure series set up in space. It's harder to find the right balance. Even Code of Honor is an example of this, it just didn't work.