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Are cassettes still good?

I found this on FB. Old style Bic pens worked great too.

Did anyone else ever find that tightening the tape up at either end helped it not do this?

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Cleaning the heads and rollers, winding and rewinding the tape to retension, and using decent tapes meant I usually didn't have any problems. In the early days I did have problems with prerecorded cassettes so I assume they used really cheap tape stock. Thankfully, 30 years ago I was earning enough to start buying CDs. Never had that many though - fewer than 200. Now I subscribe to Amazon Music I have too much choice.
 
I found this on FB. Old style Bic pens worked great too.

Did anyone else ever find that tightening the tape up at either end helped it not do this?

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Oh a thousand times yes...... Did that all the time.

Funny in the 2nd Guardians Of The Galaxy movie which I didn't much care for Peter loses his beloved walkman and gets a
ZUNE with 300 songs
..
 
Tapes are just a little more convenient than a reel-to-reel, but sacrifice sound quality. The medium is just too limited... because portability and space saving was the overriding factor. I don't get why it's making a little comeback, if only because of nostalgia and fascination. There are some high end cassette decks that are fetching top dollar now... whereas 10 years ago, you couldn't give them away.

Unlike vinyl, I think the recent cassette tape fascination will fade off. Cassettes were more than just portable -- they afforded customizing music play! The "MIX TAPE" was the big thing. But now? You can burn CD's. You can create MP3 playlists. The cassette tape doesn't bring anything good to the table. The LINEAR progression through the audio tracks is painful. At least with vinyl you can easily skip over a track that does not interest you.

I have to admit, I almost got sucked into vintage tapes. I participate on a forum called Audio Karma, and there are some major tape heads there. They wax on about how you can get a cassette tape to sound nearly like vinyl quality, if you've got a good quality tape and a top notch deck in which to play it. Yes... but that cassette tape isn't going to last very long with repeated play. The thin, fragile tape is prone to becoming uneven and damaged, sacrificing sound quality. Plus, you NEVER get rid of the hiss completely.

I still have a cassette deck, only because I've got plenty of tapes still lying around that I might want to play once in a while for nostalgia. But otherwise, I'm done with the media. In fact, I may at some point just transfer any audio recordings on tape that I want to preserve, then ditch the whole thing.
 
Tapes are just a little more convenient than a reel-to-reel, but sacrifice sound quality. The medium is just too limited... because portability and space saving was the overriding factor. I don't get why it's making a little comeback, if only because of nostalgia and fascination. There are some high end cassette decks that are fetching top dollar now... whereas 10 years ago, you couldn't give them away.

Unlike vinyl, I think the recent cassette tape fascination will fade off. Cassettes were more than just portable -- they afforded customizing music play! The "MIX TAPE" was the big thing. But now? You can burn CD's. You can create MP3 playlists. The cassette tape doesn't bring anything good to the table. The LINEAR progression through the audio tracks is painful. At least with vinyl you can easily skip over a track that does not interest you.

I have to admit, I almost got sucked into vintage tapes. I participate on a forum called Audio Karma, and there are some major tape heads there. They wax on about how you can get a cassette tape to sound nearly like vinyl quality, if you've got a good quality tape and a top notch deck in which to play it. Yes... but that cassette tape isn't going to last very long with repeated play. The thin, fragile tape is prone to becoming uneven and damaged, sacrificing sound quality. Plus, you NEVER get rid of the hiss completely.

I still have a cassette deck, only because I've got plenty of tapes still lying around that I might want to play once in a while for nostalgia. But otherwise, I'm done with the media. In fact, I may at some point just transfer any audio recordings on tape that I want to preserve, then ditch the whole thing.

there's a couple of sound things you can do on a cassette that won't work on digital..and there is the nostalgia effect..some people WANT the hiss. Kinda like how some people love the TOS style, and hate the modernization of Discovery.
 
^ Well, yes... the hiss for nostalgia. But all the time? It's one thing with vinyl where occasionally you hear a pop or a crackle, but for the most part the music can sound wonderfully deep and warm. I don't get that feeling from cassettes. I wouldn't compare TOS to tape hiss... don't insult the legend, mate. ;)
 
there's a couple of sound things you can do on a cassette that won't work on digital..and there is the nostalgia effect..some people WANT the hiss. Kinda like how some people love the TOS style, and hate the modernization of Discovery.
I think a closer analogy would be wanting to watch TOS (or any other older TV show or movie) on VHS through a CRT TV instead of blu-ray and an HD TV.

Kor
 
^ Well, yes... the hiss for nostalgia. But all the time? It's one thing with vinyl where occasionally you hear a pop or a crackle, but for the most part the music can sound wonderfully deep and warm. I don't get that feeling from cassettes. I wouldn't compare TOS to tape hiss... don't insult the legend, mate. ;)

I think it depends when you were born... even though we had 8 tracks and records growing up, cassettes were the main way I listened to and recorded music. SO that's why I would be in the cassette camp. (Or at least understand them)

And TOS and tape hiss comparison... just the special effects ;)
 
I get you and appreciate the nostalgia factor. What characteristics are you able to create with cassettes that you can't with digital?

Yes, I see now -- TOS special effects and cassette tape hiss... definitely equatable! Sometimes it was so painful what they did... rocking the ship on a cable to simulate ship turbulence! :wtf:
 
Eh, I miss cassettes, but appreciate modern convenience too.

I had a high-end Sanyo walkman imitator, lasted me ten years. Pretty good sound, just needed decent headphones, and I went though lot of those. Also had a big Panasonic tape deck [looks online finds model] HiFi Cassette Deck RS-263. Still miss that machine (The Wife threw it out). The other part was using good quality tapes. TDK were my favourite brand, though I'd occasionally spring for BASF chromium dioxide. One 90 min cassette I owned had 'Wish You Were here' on one side and 'Led Zep 4' on the other. How much better could it be?!

Mix tapes! Mix tapes were the bomb! We still use that term today!

Good times.
 
Eh, I miss cassettes, but appreciate modern convenience too.

I had a high-end Sanyo walkman imitator, lasted me ten years. Pretty good sound, just needed decent headphones, and I went though lot of those. Also had a big Panasonic tape deck [looks online finds model] HiFi Cassette Deck RS-263. Still miss that machine (The Wife threw it out). The other part was using good quality tapes. TDK were my favourite brand, though I'd occasionally spring for BASF chromium dioxide. One 90 min cassette I owned had 'Wish You Were here' on one side and 'Led Zep 4' on the other. How much better could it be?!

Mix tapes! Mix tapes were the bomb! We still use that term today!

Good times.

That thing looks like it was made to last

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Same model only branded Technics They made this in several brands. They even made models for stores like Tandy.

I had up till 1994 a big portable stereo that had a tape deck, tuner, and a CD player on top. The CD and radio were the only bits to stay functional. The belts on the tape deck eventually wore out.
 
I have something similar still lying around, it is a Erres TR 2606 from the early 80's black and BRIGHT red plastic, dug it out a few minutes ago and it still works fine, found a cassette near it, a TDK Super Avilyn, quite "modern" also still working.
 
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