Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

[wayoung]

Part of me does enjoy the nerdiness of the references, and I'm aware that it's there with the best intentions. I have just always found the 'endless connections' thing a bit trying on suspension of disbelief when we are asked to imagine a whole universe beyond the bits we see. Not one captain who hasn't featured in a TV show so far is considered 'great'? That rather reduces the scope of that universe. Just make up some names, three or four is all I ask!

I posted the below in the thread announcing Sarak being gin the series, and why I felt it was SoB breaking:

There are somewhere between 120-150 member species spread out over a thousand words in TOS. No canon population in TOS I know of but a hundred years later the estimated casualties of a drawn out dominion war is 900 billion, and that still leaves enough of a population base to eventually re organize and successfully rebel against the Dominion.

So let's say a conservative estimated population of 1 trillion among 120 species on a thousand worlds at the time of Discovery. Seems fair since humans alone are approaching 7 billion on one world 250 years earlier.

.4% of the US pop actively serves in the military. Since the Federation doesn't have a "military" assume the same in Starfleet.

Hell, let's half that.

And then half it again. Why not? And then use only a tenth of that. Say only .01%

That's 10 BILLION active Starfleet officers.

That's why all this stuff feels fanwanky and small universey.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

The episodes just keep getting better and better. I liked that this felt like more of an ensemble piece and shifted the focus away from Burnham for an episode. I like what was done with Lorca, I got the sense that he's carrying around a lot of guilt over what he did to his crew. Hopefully we'll get a bit more on what exactly happened on the Buran. Saru was a great Captain, i really liked seeing him in command. It was cool to see his prey instincts being used so effectively in combat. Also the scene between Saru and Burnham involving the telescope made my night. I liked that Saru didn't hide behind passive-aggressiveness and just laid his feelings out to burnham. Hopefully now Burnham and Saru will be able to move forward and repair their friendship. Stamets and Culber were great. Fingers crossed, the showrunners don't decide to follow the 'kill your gays' trope. I'm guessing there's going to be some weird alternate reality shenanigans/consequences as a result

9/10 tardigrades from me.

Just as an aside, I think the "Buran" was a nice nod to the Soviet Union's sadly defunct and rotting space shuttle program.

 

[ScottJ85]

Well, I really enjoyed that one. It's really starting to feel like a proper Star Trek show to me. I mean, all the elements were there in the last few episodes but now it's really starting to come together.

also Robert April is canon now

 

[KennyB]

If you think both Blade Runners are "boring" then, with respect, you have little credibility lecturing me on attention spans.

It just comes down to personal taste, I have tried over and over again since I was 11 to like Blade Runner......in 82 it was because it had Han Solo in it.......I tried again in my 20's because all the cool kids said it was amazing.......I tried again when the sequel was announced because I felt like I MUST be missing something, nope turns out I just don't care for it.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

It just comes down to personal taste, I have tried over and over again since I was 11 to like Blade Runner......in 82 it was because it had Han Solo in it.......I tried again in my 20's because all the cool kids said it was amazing.......I tried again when the sequel was announced because I felt like I MUST be missing something, nope turns out I just don't care for it.

That's fine. But "boring" it is not, and to call it boring in a conversation about attention span is very ironic to me.

 

[MrPointy]

It's a solid 8. Best episode so far.

I'm also glad we now know how many penises a Klingon has.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

When I heard the name Buran, I was thinking about the ill-fated Buran which had a run-in with a Borg cube at Wolf 359.

Buran does seem to be an unfortunate name for a space craft, either in Star Trek or the real world. The real Buran, according to After Trek, was destroyed when the hanger it was in collapsed when there was too much snow on it.

 

[KennyB]

That's fine. But "boring" it is not, and to call it boring in a conversation about attention span is very ironic to me.

Twas a bit "slow" for me then.........;-)

 

[wayoung]

It's a solid 8. Best episode so far.

I'm also glad we now know how many penises a Klingon has.

Lucky Dax.

Suppose that also explains Torres and Paris' fertility issues.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

I'm also glad we now know how many penises a Klingon has.

We do?

 

[Agony_Boothb]

It just comes down to personal taste, I have tried over and over again since I was 11 to like Blade Runner......in 82 it was because it had Han Solo in it.......I tried again in my 20's because all the cool kids said it was amazing.......I tried again when the sequel was announced because I felt like I MUST be missing something, nope turns out I just don't care for it.

I've fallen asleep every time I've tried to watch it. It's pretty boring.


Also, did anyone see the trailer for next week's episode?? It's wasn't aired with after trek and I can't seem to find it online either

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Also, did anyone see the trailer for next week's episode?? It's wasn't aired with after trek and I can't seem to find it online either

It's not at the end of the episode. Obviously they want to keep something quiet.

 

[Refuge]

5.

Mudd was a waste of time. Lorca has become the new lead character, Burnham is not cutting it. Tilly snores too much (and really has bad skin). Saru was a prick. Stamets stepped up but man the actor is pretty frowny. Glad the Klingon female died and we now have a new guy on Discovery.

 

[KennyB]

5.

Mudd was a waste of time. Lorca has become the new lead character, Burnham is not cutting it. Tilly snores too much (and really has bad skin). Saru was a prick. Stamets stepped up but man the actor is pretty frowny. Glad the Klingon female died and we now have a new guy on Discovery.

Did you even watch the same show?

 

[wayoung]

5.

Mudd was a waste of time. Lorca has become the new lead character, Burnham is not cutting it. Tilly snores too much (and really has bad skin). Saru was a prick. Stamets stepped up but man the actor is pretty frowny. Glad the Klingon female died and we now have a new guy on Discovery.

The Klingon female didn't die, she just got a distinctive scar to make her immediately identifiable to the audience in future appearances.

 

[Refuge]

Oh God - she lived. That sucks.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

So, if Klingons have an incompatible number of sexual organs with Humans, how did Klingon/Human hybrids arise?

 

[MrPointy]

We do?

During the torture scene, Lorca makes a wisecrack at L'Rell regarding how she's having her way with Tyler and says that 'we don't even have the right number of organs for ya.'

Therefore the answer is >1.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

They seem to try to impress us with their fancy gadgets in previous episodes but their toothbrushes are not any fancier than mine. Why did they waste so much air time on those unimpressive tooth brushes?

These Roman spoons are over 2,000 years old yet are little different from the ones we use today (and the basic design of the spoon has changed little since they were fist created during the Paleolithic Era). Not every technology needs constant improvement if it serves its purpose as is. If they had tried to make some futuristic Trek toothbrush it would have either been the same as a regular toothbrush but with a couple stupid blinky lights on it like every random prop in TNG-VOY, or it would have been some overly complex item like a laser or sonic toothbrush that would needlessly require a distracting and budget-sucking special effect when a regular toothbrush would do just fine.

 

[wayoung]

So, if Klingons have an incompatible number of sexual organs with Humans, how did Klingon/Human hybrids arise?

How do any of these varrying species interbreed? They should all be genetically incompatible. The whole thing falls apart once you look at it too closely. In this case it was a throw away joke made by someone who is shown to be an expert on warfare, not Klingon dicks. Just ignore it