No? He was beating the crap out of her, she threw him off, she stood up, Lorca then grazed her with the disruptor blast while Tyler was in the floor in pain doing nothing.
He wasn't trying to protect her at all.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"
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No? He was beating the crap out of her, she threw him off, she stood up, Lorca then grazed her with the disruptor blast while Tyler was in the floor in pain doing nothing.
He wasn't trying to protect her at all.
He brings the pain
House of Pain said:
There's a war on. Ain't got time for impulse.
Foreplay
theater maybe. if the Ash is Voq theory is true...
Your "best episode yet" is only worth a 5?
Ooooooookay.
I will agree that this is the best episode of the series thus far, and part of the reason for that is the Discovery's crew, which I officially love now. They encompass everything I love about both DS9 and Voyager's characters, and are slowly starting to 'gel' as a team, even the 'supporting' characters like Reese, Ariam, Keyla Detmer, and Joann Owosekun (even though we don't actually know much about them outside of their jobs on the bridge).
I still don't buy the notion that there's anything 'there' to this "Lieutenant Tyler is Voq" theory, but others' mileage may vary.
I never watched The Office, but the clips I've seen of Rainn Wilson's performance in that series have always made me smile, and I really liked him here as Harry Mudd (a character I know vaguely about but had never actually been exposed to before now). It'll be interesting to see what brings him back into contact with the Discovery's crew, and what form his vow of revenge against Lorca ends up taking.
I really should've predicted that Stamets was going to inject himself with the tardigrade's DNA and become the "spore drive catalyst" because it was honestly pretty predictable and really transparently telegraphed, but the reveal still worked even for being so obvious.
Saru and Burnham's relationship really reminds me of the early relationship between Commander Sisko and Kira Nerys, especially given that Saru resents Burnham for getting a chance to bond with Captain Georgiou and learn from her that he never did, especially since she bears at least part of the blame for Georgiou's death.
Some people might see Captain Lorca's actions in blowing up his first ship and crew as tainting the character, but, for me, they only cement my love for him because they show that he's willing to make hard choices, even if he's judged harshly for those choices by others. His actions also remind me in a lot of ways of some of the actions that Sisko and Janeway end up taking out of necessity, as well as cement for me his similarities to Commodore Reyes and Captain Mackenzie Calhoun from the novel series Star Trek Vanguard and Star Trek New Frontier, respectively.
I'm giving this episode a 9.5 (I gave the first four episodes 9s), and can't wait to see where we go next, especially now that they need somebody to permanently replace the tardigrade as the "spore drive catalyst".
Also, I was right about Stamets being the Discovery's Chief Engineer despite not being assigned to the Operations division.
Should they open up space a little? I like the visual effects but you don’t ever see Discovery move or go to warp. It feels like they do this jump thing to save money (or they blow it on the spinning effect).
I’ve been watching TNG a lot and you see the ships actually move and space feels big. I miss that in this series. Heck I still don’t know what these Klingon ships look like because we haven’t gotten a wide angle of them. In fact I would say they look like the Scimitar from Nemesis but that’s only with what little we have seen and only quick glimpses.
I’ve been watching TNG a lot and you see the ships actually move and space feels big. I miss that in this series. Heck I still don’t know what these Klingon ships look like because we haven’t gotten a wide angle of them. In fact I would say they look like the Scimitar from Nemesis but that’s only with what little we have seen and only quick glimpses.
This was one of the best episodes yet. I loved the interplay between the characters. I thought Mudd was great. I think Rainn honored Roger C. Carmel I liked the scene between Burnham and Saru, perhaps they are burying the hatchet. And I liked how they let the Tartigrade go at the end.
One drinks. One sings. One likes swords. And one loves their homeland.
That was a disruptor
Easier to clean up.
I'm curious, considering you gave this 9.5, is this truly one of the best things you've ever seen in your life? Or are you just very liberal with your 9.5s?
Aren’t we just grading based on the show itself or the history of television. I gave this episode a 10 because it’s the first episode I can truely say I loved. Comparing it to everything else and it would be significantly lower which isn’t fair to this series.
Really good episode. I think as the series goes on it feels more and more like Trek, which has me wondering if maybe they're trying to ease new viewers into the format a little. Each episode since 3 seems to add just another layer to the format, 4 was the heart and morality play, and now 5 adds the more ensemble feel. I dunno, maybe it's just me.
*I loved the name drops
*Given the background from Desperate Hours, Saru's story in this episode seemed all the more poignant
*Harry Harry Harry, how we love to hate you so. Rain Wilson did a great job with the character, just wish he had to the slight brogue but I can live without it.
*Am I the only one who drew a comparison between the vaporization effects from this episode and the green fade-out from TOS? I initially thought it was a bit odd to go up in a poof like that, if this is a call back I like it.
*I'm surprised by Staments and the fact that they let the Tardigrade go free. Given how Starfleet in this episode was all about uncharacteristically hunting them down, I have a feeling this is gonna have serious consequences.
* ♪Who is that guy I see, smiling creepily, back at me...♫
*I loved the name drops
*Given the background from Desperate Hours, Saru's story in this episode seemed all the more poignant
*Harry Harry Harry, how we love to hate you so. Rain Wilson did a great job with the character, just wish he had to the slight brogue but I can live without it.
*Am I the only one who drew a comparison between the vaporization effects from this episode and the green fade-out from TOS? I initially thought it was a bit odd to go up in a poof like that, if this is a call back I like it.
*I'm surprised by Staments and the fact that they let the Tardigrade go free. Given how Starfleet in this episode was all about uncharacteristically hunting them down, I have a feeling this is gonna have serious consequences.
* ♪Who is that guy I see, smiling creepily, back at me...♫
It never dawned upon me to grade it in this format. But then in retrospect you'd have to readjust your ratings, if your 10 will always represent the best episode to date?
To me 10 should exemplify flawlessness. There are only a handful of such episodes in the Trek history.
I was one of those who was lamenting Mudd being in this series and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. Loved the scenes in the cell and Wilson played him really well. This is my favorite version of the character in the entire franchise already.
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