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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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Katt Grant taking a job as press secretary seems beneath her status. Would't that be like Mark Zuckerberg taking that kind of job?

Jason

Cat took the job of Press Secretary because she and the President know each other from college.

She's also one of the few people who knows that the President is an alien.
 
Anyone else notice how off the set decoration was in Edge's offices? It seemed like they had twice as much space as they were expecting to get, and the they had to push all the set props against the wall to make it look balanced. Then there was the rather flat lighting used throughout, and when the henchman guy walked into the office at one point, it was pretty clear that the corridor and offices beyond were starkly empty of life or furniture...

Mark
 
I was really, really hoping that the show would knock it off with the anti-conservative political snipes. But nope, if anything the season premiere doubled down on it. And the ratings for the episode were down over 30% compared to last year's season premiere... I wonder why... Insulting and belittling potentially half of your audience in order to virtue signal is idiotic at best.
 
Insulting and belittling potentially half of your audience in order to virtue signal is idiotic at best.

I really doubt that there was much overlap to begin with between Republican voters and CW viewers. And taking a strong political stand has been part and parcel of superhero fiction since 1938 Superman took on war profiteers and 1940 Captain America punched Hitler.
 
I doubt the kind of people who are offended by that stuff would actually watch a TV show with a kick ass woman superhero as the main character anyway.
This was a good premiere, the stuff with Kara dealing with the loss of Mon-El was pretty good, and Morgan Edge seems like he should be a good bad guy.
Alex asking J'Onn to walk her down the isle was a nice moment.
So was Reign the woman with the daughter at the unveiling of the Supergirl statue? I was wondering why they were focusing so much on her.
Who was that at the end that saw Kara's mother?
 
So was Reign the woman with the daughter at the unveiling of the Supergirl statue? I was wondering why they were focusing so much on her.
Who was that at the end that saw Kara's mother?

To both questions, yes, that was Odette Annable as Samantha Arias, who is unaware of her Kryptonian origins. I wonder why her powers haven't kicked in until now.
 
I really doubt that there was much overlap to begin with between Republican voters and CW viewers. And taking a strong political stand has been part and parcel of superhero fiction since 1938 Superman took on war profiteers and 1940 Captain America punched Hitler.
Even more to the point, Superman as a character and a franchise (of which Supergirl is a part/extension) has been actively politically progressive from day one, taking on domestic violence in his very first Golden Age story ("You're not fighting a woman now!"), and proceeding to defend mine workers against their corrupt and exploitative fat cat bosses ("The Blakely Mine Disaster"), tackle white supremacists (the radio series' classic KKK storyline), and face down a xenophobic mob ("Obviously none of you can be trusted with guns, so I'm going to take them away from you!" -- Superman and the Mole Men). Superman has been an "SJW" for decades before that nasty little bit of reactionary code was ever invented.

And then there's this, from 1950 -- a lesson still sadly unlearned 67 years later, as everything about our recent election makes clear.

In short, Supergirl's politics, and their open expression, are fully in keeping with the proud legacy of perhaps America's greatest pop culture icon.
 
I really doubt that there was much overlap to begin with between Republican voters and CW viewers.
You might think the same thing about Star Trek, but there are quite a few conservatives in these parts.

FWIW, Jeb Bush said that he watched Supergirl during the Republican primaries.

And taking a strong political stand has been part and parcel of superhero fiction since 1938 Superman took on war profiteers and 1940 Captain America punched Hitler.
There's a big difference between taking a stand against a foreign threat and taking sides in domestic party politics.
 
It's nice to speculate about the reasons why a shows rating's might be dipping. But with respect to a show like Supergirl, with so many plausible reasons why viewers might be turned away besides taking a partisan stand, such as depicting empowered women, depicting homosexuality in a positive light, and having some dodgy storytelling, and without hard data, that's all it would be: speculation. The safest bet is that it's some combination of at least all of the above.

As for my reaction to the season opener: it's standard fare for the series. The main thing piquing my curiosity is where the friendship between Kara and Lena will go. I'm eagerly awaiting the Legion of Super-Heroes and hoping for the best.
 
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Me, I'm a left-leaning moderate who's always voted Democrat, but I don't like being hit over the head with a sledgehammer, regardless of what party the person swinging it belongs to.
 
I honestly completely forgot about the ending of Last season with Reign

I didn't put two to two together until reading this thread.
 
Even more to the point, Superman as a character and a franchise (of which Supergirl is a part/extension) has been actively politically progressive from day one, taking on domestic violence in his very first Golden Age story ("You're not fighting a woman now!"), and proceeding to defend mine workers against their corrupt and exploitative fat cat bosses ("The Blakely Mine Disaster"), tackle white supremacists (the radio series' classic KKK storyline), and face down a xenophobic mob ("Obviously none of you can be trusted with guns, so I'm going to take them away from you!" -- Superman and the Mole Men). Superman has been an "SJW" for decades before that nasty little bit of reactionary code was ever invented.

And then there's this, from 1950 -- a lesson still sadly unlearned 67 years later, as everything about our recent election makes clear.

In short, Supergirl's politics, and their open expression, are fully in keeping with the proud legacy of perhaps America's greatest pop culture icon.

For me whenever a show gets political the only question is whether they do it in away that helps the drama or humor. "Supergirl" is kind of hit and miss on the issue. I think they do a good job of exploring female empowerment and had a great gay romance last year but get to preachy when they aim their sights on Trump. I actually think it takes a certain skill to make that kind of stuff work. Aaron Sorkin is a master at it and so is Ryan Murphy. Joss Whedon and Louie C.K are a few more examples. Problem is Trump is such as easy target that any joke feels cheap because we have all already made them ourselves and also because it feels like pandering. I'm not sure if people like hearing their views spouted back at them without some kind counterargument made that at least makes it feel like the person writing the show has really explored all sides of a issue.

Jason
 
I'm guessing it's the tv speak from Katt talking about spying on people via a microwave. Which is kind of a old joke by now and feels dated because Trump has moved beyond that stupid to new stupid. I think the big issue is she is speaking her opinions a little to frank which isn't something that makes sense for that kind of job as press secretary. They are their to basically try and either hide the truth or downplay it so as to try and stop controversy. Basically they are supose to report the presidents agenda in the most boring way possible. You should go watch the "West Wing" episode were Allison Janney couldn't do her job once because she had a dentist surgery. Josh had to fill in and he was, like Katt, being kind of saracastic and flip and ended up making things worst for the president. I think it was about a, secret plan to stop poverty or something like that.

Jason
 
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