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WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread

It's strange that many believe that Joss Whedon's style is more in line with Marvel. I have memories of both "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and especially "Angel" being very angsty and gritty sometimes. Of course, Whedon got a lot of flak for allowing "Buffy" to be that gritty and not maintaining the show's tone from the first season.

Then again, even Marvel can be rather gritty or angsty . . . like its Captain America films and "The Incredible Hulk".
 
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LJones41 said:
It's strange that many believe that Joss Whedon's style is more in line with Marvel. I have memories of both "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and especially "Angel" being very angsty and gritty sometimes. Of course, Whedon got a lot of flak for allowing "Buffy" to be that gritty and not maintaining the show's tone from the first season.

Then again, even Marvel can be rather gritty or angsty . . . like its Captain America films and "The Incredible Hulk".
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I don't recall any flak for Buffy 'not maintaining the tone'. People got upset about 1 specific season with some extremely controversial and frankly depressing main storylines - and even the writers themselves said afterwords that maybe it wasn't the best idea to do all of those specific storylines at the exact same time. (Though I personally still really enjoy that season, even though it can be hard to watch)

But even Buffy season 1 went some pretty dark places already (Catherine Madison, the nightmare episode, 'Prophecy Girl').
 
LJones41 said:
I now see what the problem is in regard to pop culture today. Just reading these comments made me finally see the light. I don't know what it is about today's society, but it seems that the public is more willing to embrace the familiar, the conservative and nostalgia in culture - including pop culture - than give anything new or challenging a chance. It seems as if everyone wants Marvel to continue its current rut of following its formula and they want the D.C. Comics movies to regress to the past. And Warner Bros. is planning to give the audiences what they want, just as Marvel has been doing.
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These characters have a pretty long history, and I think it's great that they're willing to recognize that in the newer adaptations. Whether it's casting Dean Cain, Helen Slater, and Lynda Carter in Supergirl, John Wesley Shipp in the Flash, or using bits of old themes in the new movies' music, I get a big kick out of it.
 
"That's not a saying. That's the opposite of what the saying is" is a Joss Whedon line if ever I heard one. His characters often display a preoccupation with words and language, no doubt reflecting his own.

So help me, I think I may finally like Jason Momoa in something. He seemed to be channeling the Brave and the Bold Aquaman at times.
 
the first trailer was better. this trailer was all action.

I am a little worried that wb is still not confident with the movie. I hope it goes well.
 
Dales said:
the first trailer was better. this trailer was all action.
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Hardly all action. Roughly the first 1/3 of it is Lois's quiet, peaceful dream about Clark.

Besides, it's the standard trailer formula these days that each trailer focuses on a different aspect of a movie. Also, the teaser trailer is usually done before the FX are finished, so it focuses mainly on the talky bits, and then the next trailer showcases the visual effects and action. The final trailer often focuses more on humor and character, although I felt there was a fair amount of that in this one.
 
Looks like this is the first shot where WB spent money on CGI'ing out Cavill's moustache


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He's wearing the same shirt as his recent instagram post.



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