So what's up with the black badges?

[Charles Phipps]

Lorca has not murdered anyone, or caused anyone to BE murdered.

No, he did however cause the two researchers into Mushroom Warhammer 40K Warp technology to be split up and thus prevent the two people could reasonably fact check another from doing so and one's ship getting eaten by creatures from Dormmamu's realm.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

No, he did however cause the two researchers into Mushroom Warhammer 40K Warp technology to be split up

I wasn't aware that Lorca was personally responsible for that. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Charles Phipps]

I wasn't aware that Lorca was personally responsible for that. Can anyone confirm this?

I get the impression Lorca isn't answering to anyone on this but himself. Especially since Mushroom Researcher blames him personally.

I could be wrong, though.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Mushroom Researcher blames him personally.

Of course he would. But Stamets is hardly objective in this.

His friend was killed, so Stamets would naturally lash out and blame the most convenient target. Who wouldn't?

 

[David cgc]

I get the impression Lorca isn't answering to anyone on this but himself. Especially since Mushroom Researcher blames him personally.

I could be wrong, though.

Lorca didn't seem to be a particularly senior captain, so the Glenn and her captain probably weren't subordinate to him, and given his attitude about using whatever he could get his hands on to aid his mission, I'm sure he would've preferred to keep Stamets and Straal together so his team would be more effective rather than passing one of his stars off to another ship to duplicate his efforts.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Lorca didn't seem to be a particularly senior captain, so the Glenn and her captain probably weren't subordinate to him, and given his attitude about using whatever he could get his hands on to aid his mission, I'm sure he would've preferred to keep Stamets and Straal together so his team would be more effective rather than passing one of his stars off to another ship to duplicate his efforts.

I don't know, he basically says, "Benedict Arnold, don't worry about that treason thing. I've taken care of it. I also arranged for you to be transferred to me."

 

[David cgc]

I don't know, he basically says, "Benedict Arnold, don't worry about that treason thing. I've taken care of it. I also arranged for you to be transferred to me."

I don't see how the one implies the other. As I said, I think it suggests the opposite, that if it was within his (apparently considerable) power, he'd have both experts on the mushroom drive on his ship rather than just one.

 

[cooleddie74]

Sloan wears it more then once. Also agent Harris was seen wearing it in 2154.

And Harris definitely wasn't a hologram. He was a flesh-and-blood operative who wore that same black outfit to his nighttime rendezvous with Malcolm in San Francisco.

 

[DigificWriter]

I'm sorry, but blaming Lorca for/accusing him of causing the death of the prison shuttle pilot and/or splitting up Stamets and Straal is just ridiculous.

 

[Timo]

OTOH, Harris and Sloan weren't colleagues. The former fought for the United Earth (and perhaps the broader mankind), the latter for the United Federation of Planets (and perhaps the broader sapientkind); the former might in fact have found the latter an enemy.

A suitably deranged mercenary or spy today may dress up like General Patton or Herr Flick without actually representing the US Army or the Gestapo. Less deranged individuals still go for "official" garb or imitations thereof, for the aura of (dis)respectability they want to convey. With something this indistinct, we might simply decide that both Harris and Sloan hail from eastern Europe...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Charles Phipps]

OTOH, Harris and Sloan weren't colleagues. The former fought for the United Earth (and perhaps the broader mankind), the latter for the United Federation of Planets (and perhaps the broader sapientkind); the former might in fact have found the latter an enemy.

A suitably deranged mercenary or spy today may dress up like General Patton or Herr Flick without actually representing the US Army or the Gestapo. Less deranged individuals still go for "official" garb or imitations thereof, for the aura of (dis)respectability they want to convey. With something this indistinct, we might simply decide that both Harris and Sloan hail from eastern Europe...

Timo Saloniemi

Eh, I'm of the mind a FBI agent recruited by J. Edgar Hoover in the 1930s might have very different values as to an FBI agent in 2017.

Multiplied by two or three.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Bad writing.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Yes, but Into Darkness is a burning pile of stupid, so let's hope that's not repeated here.

Co-written and co-produced by Discovery co-creator Alex Kurtzman. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[SPCTRE]

Co-written and co-produced by Discovery co-creator Alex Kurtzman. Don't get your hopes up.

I KNEW IT

*sends another cheque*

 

[Q2UnME]

Given that IIRC, the "black badge" didn't join on the boarding party, I'd favour them being Starfleet Intelligence rather than commandos or marines.

Well, the mission to the Glenn was technically a salvage mission with no life forms aboard after a horrific accident ... I would not expect them to send armed marines into that situation. Starfleet vessel, no life forms, recovery of tech only .... Sending one security guard made sense to me.

Q2

 

[saddestmoon]

Black badges = Disco Redshirts.

Trek cannon fodder for the new series.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Disco Redshirts.

"Sir, I'm honored to be assigned to the boarding party, but why am I wearing a polyester shirt tied in a knot? And what's with these collars?"

 

[Paul Weaver]

Black badges = Disco Redshirts.

Trek cannon fodder for the new series.

I can see the script now:


Burnham: They'll die!
Lorca: They're dead already

 

[saddestmoon]

I can see the script now:

Burnham: They'll die!
Lorca: They're dead already

[Burnham’s eyes widen, as the penny drops]

ZING!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Somebody thought the black badges were kewl. The end.

Order one to day!