I see that working with Discovery.This doesn't look like a campy 60's TV show to me. Looks like a modern reimagining of TOS.
Kelvin Timeline all but confirmed
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That's what I'd like to see.
People seem really angry with the idea of me having an opinion that doesn't line up with their own. I will repeat myself again: if they include some element that proves it's Prime, I will concede. But so far things have been getting further away from both universes. The only thing close to suggesting it's Prime is the inclusion of TOS props in the theme.
Answer me this, if it's Prime, then how come
At this point it's looking more like a reboot than anything else.
Answer me this, if it's Prime, then how come
Voyager never suggested using the fungus drive? Obviously we know it's going to prove unusable, but surely with more than a century of advancement and with their experiments with slipstream and transwarp they could find a way to make it work? The Glenn was able to repeatedly travel 90 lightyears in a second. That means Voyager could have been home in minutes.
The same reason TNG wasn't crawling with Mudd/Exo III/Flint androids, ships that can fly to the edge of the Galaxy and back in hours and holograms that can touch you
IMO, you've essentially answered your own question, presumably it proves sufficiently unusable that the project is shelved, probably even classified for safety reasons (specifically to prevent desparate people like the Voyager crew from using it).
And yet the Discovery and Shenzhou do have robot crewmembers, which kind of makes Data nothing special.
If at some point in the series it's abandoned and locked away in Starfleet's equivalent of Area 51 I can accept that the Voyager crew might have no idea such a project existed.
I can see this. I definitely can't see Kelvinverse. That's my stance: it's Prime, unless it chooses to go in its own direction via tech. Either way works for me.
Because Discovery wasn't around when Voyager was being written.
I'm game. I really want to see the Enterprise make a guest appearance on Discovery.
This doesn't look like a campy 60's TV show to me. Looks like a modern reimagining of TOS.
Not it looks more 80's era
The Shenzhou had no robotic crew. The Discovery has one, we see 5 styles of androids in trek, 3 in TOS. Androids are not unknown, cybernetic races are not unknown. What made data and the 4 or 5 others like him stand out was his type and the fact he was human built and not a culture or even a creation of a sociality, but a single person.
True.Definitive proof Discovery isn't set in the Kelvin Timeline: "You made an incursion onto an enemy planet! You killed a Klingon patrol! Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, YOU? If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated!" -Admiral Alexander Marcus, Star Trek Into Darkness
Not only that, earlier before Marcus reinstates Kirk's command, he says that the Klingons have taken potshots at them a half a dozen times. Not all out war. Ergo, Discovery can't be in the Kelvin Timeline
But they never mentioned an actual war between Klingons and the Federation prior to "Errand of Mercy" either.
Ergo, a reboot in it's own continuity
This doesn't look like a campy 60's TV show to me. Looks like a modern reimagining of TOS.
This is what the Kelvin timeline Enterprise bridge should have looked like. I'd have loved the hell outta this interpretation of the classic bridge design.
Maybe you should quit trying to speak for other people. It is beyond fucking rude.
This doesn't look like a campy 60's TV show to me. Looks like a modern reimagining of TOS.
No it looks like late movie era sets. See ST5 and ST6. I actually liked the Kelvin-style bridge. It look really good if they didn't have lens flare.
I don't want a return to TOS design.
I want good, interesting design.
I love the Abrams Trek movies. The production design, while not entirely to my taste, is brilliant and memorable and much of it is beautiful. It evokes the history and essence of Star Trek while being something new. The design on Discovery is none of that. It's bland and completely uninspired, though clearly big and expensive.
I want good, interesting design.
I love the Abrams Trek movies. The production design, while not entirely to my taste, is brilliant and memorable and much of it is beautiful. It evokes the history and essence of Star Trek while being something new. The design on Discovery is none of that. It's bland and completely uninspired, though clearly big and expensive.
What made Data unique was the type of Android he was.
Obviously this is going to happen. The producers/writers said things will mostly align TOS by the end
Didn't B'Elanna say in Prototype that Data was the only android in Starfleet? If there'd been more in the past then surely she would have said something about that?
There's a difference between a robot and an android.
Perhaps it's a matter of semantics. The others may have been considered "cyborgs" or "mechanically augmented humanoids", or some such. The Binars certainly appeared to have cybernetic aspects to them (really kind of wish that we knew more about them) but were never referred to as androids. I wonder how they might have handled an encounter with the Borg.
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