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Are you depressed over bad reviews or simply don't give a F--?!

Roald

Roald

Fleet Captain
Fleet Captain
I don't know why I do it. But I keep doing it over and over again....

I keep going over to sites like IMDB and AICN to read reviews and reactions regarding DSC.... I don't know why. Maybe I'm just hoping there will be some sort of universal praise for this show, some sort of consensus that it's 'a damn good show'. But the opposite is going on...

It's is so depressing to read the IMDB user reviews for instance..... I really had to go through pages and pages of 1/10 reviews before getting to something above 6/10... and those reviews are really sparse....

Why would I care? I mean, I love the show, that's all that matters right? Maybe it's a feeling of injustice.. the show does not deserve this kind of onslaught... maybe it's fear... that CBS is reading stuff like this and saying 'Well that didn't work, let's just pull the plug'...

And there's a feeling of paranoia perhaps... sometimes I can't help myself but feel like a large group has collectively agreed to post as many negativity as possible about DSC... the infamous 'Axanar-camp' comes to mind...

I'm hoping that by the end of the season things will have changed....

How do you feel about this? Does it depress you or do you not care? To be clear, I'm not saying EVERY critisism towards this show is unjust, of course not. But a giant string of 1/10 reviews is not fair....
 
The 1/10 reviews are trolls. Many have admitted to not watching the show, others invoke racist and outright sexist comments. And the rest seem to be pure out crazy rants because it does not look dated. Ignore the low ones, they are never gonna watch the show and never planned on watching it.
 
Nah not worried about bad reviews at all. Whenever something new occurs in Trek a certain segment of the fan base that always lashes out. It's happened with every incarnation after TOS. Star Trek, seems to engender an emotional connection from it's fans that I haven't really seen in other fanbases. To use myself as an example Star Trek was my rock when I was growing up. I was a socially awkward, not weird enough to be picked on but weird enough to not be popular kid with few friends. My home life wasn't so great and Star Trek was this one stable thing that i had that made me feel comfortable and safe.

Personally, I don't feel this way about Star Trek any longer, but I think there are a lot of fans that do. As a result Some of these fans hate change, they hate star trek being made accessible for mainstream audiences and are so pedantic and nitpicky that their expectations will never be met. They don't want their safe, predictable, familiar universe messed with. Discovery could have been set in the 'prime' universe after Voyager, been consistent with the look of prime universe series and people would have still found something wrong with it. Not all fans are like this obviously, but there is a vocal minority that can only respond aggressively. I tend not to take this minority very seriously.
 
CitadelZombies said:
I always find the IMDB user reviews to be full of trolls, who try and anger the blood. It's not worth it. The only option that really matters is yours. Don't let anyone ruin your enjoyment of the show.
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Although, it's a bit worse for Star Trek Discovery because Star Trek is such an established franchise with a large following/cult status. I didn't read much Discovery reviews but I remember the Enterprise time....

Since, Star Trek is such an established franchise, many people are bound to be disappointed if a new outing doesn't go in the direction they expect for their beloved franchise. Many people will start watching it because it has Star Trek in the name and will be disappointed. Personally, after the movies, I have low expectation. I'm disappointed the new Star Trek (movies and now Discovery) doesn't have that scientific, impact of new technologies, moral/ethical dilemma, philosophical, exploring new worlds and civilizations edge. But I'm used to it and it's not a big deal. Star Trek Discovery can become a great show in its own right even if it's not related to other Star Trek TV shows in style and content. I didn't watch the last 2 movies (just didn't came to it, I will at some point) but the first Star Trek movie in 2009 was fun. It wasn't as great as the TV shows (TNG, DS9, Voyager), it was basically an action movie set in space in the Star Trek universe, but it was still a great way to pass time like most movies I like are.

Said in another way, it's perfectly understandable some people who liked the previous Star Trek incarnations, won't like the new Star Trek. Since it's an established franchise, some will be more vocal about it. Same as it's perfectly understandable why some people will like the new STD.

I remember feeling disappointed about the new Total Recall while some people liked it. It's no big deal. I felt stronger about hating the new Total Recall because the original one was so great, but when you think about it, it's not a big deal. It's a matter of personal taste.
 
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It bothers me more than it should. I've taken the simple approach of avoiding them.

I hear Total Biscuit hates it. Haven't listened to it. Snodgrass apparently wrote a critical article about it. Haven't read it. Haven't been to MetaCritic or IMDb.

I also unsubbed from /r/startrek. I made the mistake of going back today, only to be told that I didn't understand Star Trek because I dared to consider Discovery part of it.

That's the thing which really bugs me, as it has with the Kelvin films. It's just such a shallow, nonsensical argument given how many things Trek has been over the years, through so many different hands.

Peter David, who I have the impression didn't like it (apparently you have to pay to get his thoughts now), asked what Gene Roddenberry would have thought of it. I very nearly replied that he would have liked it a hell of a lot more than his last Trek book where, as I recall, a Starfleet crew was attempting genocide.
 
The ratings are ok so far and the critical response has been largely positive. So if you are a fan of the show so far there really isn't much to worry about at this stage.

Personally I don't care for the first two episodes, but I equally think that you can't judge the show until the first season has finished because of it's serialised nature. It's like watching two episodes of Stranger Things or House of Cards and then deciding it's crap. You've only seen a little bit of the story. So I think those who are posting bad reviews on places like IMDB are either haters who are going to hate no matter what and are desperate for it to fail, are those who don't understand that it is serialised or those who are rather stupid and think that a Trek series should hit the ground running, despite no series since TOS having done that. Trek is not the only show that I have been amazed at when it comes to people rushing to post reviews on IMDB. So many IMDB reviews are posted after only the first episode of a show has aired and I think that is bonkers, especially in the modern era of storytelling. I mean, I thought that the first episode of The Sopranos was pretty average when I first saw it. Had I skipped out like those impatient people I would have not seen one of my all time favourite shows. Hell, had I not suffered through TNG's first season I would never have gotten some of the great Trek that followed. People should have more patience today, especially since it is so easy to binge watch shows now after they have been out for a year or so.
 
Zero fucks given.

Because 99% of the negativity I read is based on utterly frivolous OCD stuff like the Klingon makeup changing or the uniforms not matching the original Star Trek pilot episode.

When someone doesn't like the story/acting/content of the show I respect their opinion. I may even agree with them in part. But compared to the above, it feels like that's happened twice since the show premiered.:lol:
 
King Daniel Beyond said:
Zero fucks given.

Because 99% of the negativity I read is based on utterly frivolous OCD stuff like the Klingon makeup changing or the uniforms not matching the original Star Trek pilot episode.
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This was mostly what I have saw. Throw in some rants about how women make poor leaders and, white genocide and you hit the majority of them right there.
 
donners22 said:
That's the thing which really bugs me, as it has with the Kelvin films. It's just such a shallow, nonsensical argument given how many things Trek has been over the years, through so many different hands.
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Wrong and right at the same time. Why do I say wrong? Because Star Trek is different things to different people. We all have a slightly different reason for coming to the franchise. Some of us prefer certain series over the others. Some of us prefer certain characters. Some prefer Trek that is cerebral and sticks close to Roddenberry's humanism, with allegories, etc. Some prefer the Berman style Trek. Some don't care about cerebral stuff and just want good, interesting characters and plots. Some just like it for things like starship action and so on. So really Trek is in the eye of the beholder and people will have differing opinions over what should carry the franchise name and what is worthy of it. It's a difficult thing to balance because on one hand you risk being too fussy with what Trek should be, on the other you can be too willing to accept anything that has the Trek brand stamped on it even if it doesn't sit well alongside the rest of the franchise.
 
If the negative reviews are anything like

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then there's nothing to worry about.
 
Celestial said:
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then there's nothing to worry about.
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The first minute of that video is total nonsense. He basically says Uhura, Sisko, Janeway and Trek's liberal values all ok because he liked them....but Discovery terrible SJW trash because 'reasons. He's full of shit and clearly in denial about what Trek has been for half a century. He says Discovery is degrading men when the likes of Voyager did not. How? We haven't met any of the male leads yet other than Saru. Whenever I hear all this crying from white privileged brats (of which I am one) about "SJW" agendas, I think WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING FOR 50 YEARS??? Go watch something else.
 
Some reviews are just whiners who were going to do so anyway, some are people looking for attention, some are people with legit complaints.

I couldn't care less about any of them. The best way you can "punish" bad reviews is to ignore them completely. ;)
 
Celestial said:
The video began autoplaying after I watched a Discovery video on the official Star Trek YouTube channel, and after the first two minutes I wanted to see exactly how far down the rabbit hole went.
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How bad did it get? I got to the start of his Dr. Who rant before my BS filter was full. And yeah, he sounds like the bad reviews I read.
 
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