News Star Trek: Discovery – Adhering To Canon

[BillJ]

It was a stupid retcon to start with. TNG onward also retconned out things. It happens all the time. ENT retconned in a joke, it was a silly joke because fans could not handle Trek laughing at itself. If they want to keep the story, they do not have to keep the look, maybe TNG klingons are the aguments eh?

Doesn't really answer my question.

For the record, I tended to like the Augment virus episodes.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Doesn't really answer my question.

For the record, I tended to like the Augment virus episodes.

It did answer it, just not in a way you like. They can retcon out some aspects and keep the majority as is. ST always does this, they change some segments, reton events and so on. It happens all the time. The argument storyline was over a joke. As I said in my other post you could even keep that silly storyline and just use TNG klingon make up as the arguments.

 

[Fateor]

LOL, yeah they are. They own the IP they can retcon it out just as ENT retconned it in. Trek has retconned all kinds of things and do it every single show.

No, CBS owns the IP.

And they limit what the Directors and Producers are allowed to do.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

No, CBS owns the IP.

And they limit what the Directors and Producers are allowed to do.

Like anyone at CBS cares. You are off your roker if you think folks at CBS track canon

 

[BeatleJWOL]

You are off your roker if you think folks at CBS track canon

Well, I think they do as far as tie-in material (I think one of our authors-in-residence can comment on that).

 

[fireproof78]

If stuff is so unimportant that it can just be cast off on a whim, then what exactly is the point of it being Prime?

Nostalgia.

 

[Tuskin38]

Well, I think they do as far as tie-in material (I think one of our authors-in-residence can comment on that).

This here. We've even had an author here on TrekBBS say that CBS told them to change something once.

 

[Ronald Held]

With no internal long term consistence, how believable is it going to be taken?

 

[BillJ]

With no internal long term consistence, how believable is it going to be taken?

These are people in pajamas, flying at ludicrous speed, dealing with all kinds of crazy shit. Just be internally consistent.

 

[fireproof78]

With no internal long term consistence, how believable is it going to be taken?

I would rather the characters be consistency, than the world building I am more flexible on.

I am not especially worried about it lining up from series to series. If I did, I would have given up at TMP.

 

[GilmourD]

Sometimes having a 7-year-old son I learn new things.

For instance, apparently Star Trek: Discovery adheres to the canon of Skylanders.

 

[starmike]

Who caught the TAS reference tonight?

 

[Tuskin38]

Who caught the TAS reference tonight?

I missed it. What was it?

 

[starmike]

"Once Upon A Planet". Spock says his mother is fond of the works of Lewis Carroll.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The shows should be good in their own right. Not dependent on outside material.

Honestly, most interconnected shows end up boring me. The Man in the High Castle, Mad Men and The Handmaid's Tale didn't need to be part of bigger universes to be entertaining.

You'll have to wait for Madder Men, The Son of the Man in the High Castle and the Jezebel's Tale for that.

 

[Tuskin38]

"Once Upon A Planet". Spock says his mother is fond of the works of Lewis Carroll.

What an obscure reference, very cool.

 

[Fateor]

So what bits of canon did we have violated this week?

I caught the Warp capable shuttles and the "Matter" synthesizer. (Supposed to be just food.)

 

[Noname Given]

So what bits of canon did we have violated this week?

I caught the Warp capable shuttles and the "Matter" synthesizer. (Supposed to be just food.)

TOS Shuttles were Warp capable per TOS - "Metamorphosis"

 

[Smoked Salmon]

So what bits of canon did we have violated this week?

I caught the Warp capable shuttles and the "Matter" synthesizer. (Supposed to be just food.)

From TOS onwards all shuttles had warp nacelles so while we almost never saw them at warp the technology was there and, seriously, think of all those TNG and Voyager episodes where the crew takes a shuttle on leave and goes long distances. It'd take years to get anywhere without it, so I don't see it as out of canon.

As for food synthesisers, who is to say there were no matter synthesisers when transporters already existed? Has it ever been stated that there was no precursor to replicators just because we never saw them?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Didn't a shuttle follow the Enterprise at warp in "The Minagerie"?