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Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons

I would just like to chime in and say that although I personally abhor the Orville I do not begrudge anyone who enjoys it. And just because you like something I hate doesn't mean you had bad taste, we just have DIFFERENT taste. The only time I'll get upset and admittedly a little defensive is when people go completely tribalistic on it and it becomes a versus thing *glares at thread title*. I want to both to be successful and to people not fight over it.
 
I would just like to chime in and say that although I personally abhor the Orville I do not begrudge anyone who enjoys it. And just because you like something I hate doesn't mean you had bad taste, we just have DIFFERENT taste. The only time I'll get upset and admittedly a little defensive is when people go completely tribalistic on it and it becomes a versus thing *glares at thread title*. I want to both to be successful and to people not fight over it.

The only people who are going to pit them against each other (as if, for some bizarre reason, you can only watch / be loyal to one) are people outright hoping that DSC fails.
 
The only people who are going to pit them against each other (as if, for some bizarre reason, you can only watch / be loyal to one) are people outright hoping that DSC fails.
Exactly. Also, can I just say...
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The only people who are going to pit them against each other (as if, for some bizarre reason, you can only watch / be loyal to one) are people outright hoping that DSC fails.


Meh...I hope that The Orville succeeds, but I'm not optimistic that it will last all that long.
Discovery has not yet given me a reason to care whether it succeeds or not.
 
Meh...I hope that The Orville succeeds, but I'm not optimistic that it will last all that long.
Discovery has not yet given me a reason to care whether it succeeds or not.
Can't help but agree.

The Orville had me caring about the characters the first episode I saw them. I want to see whether the Captain can make something of himself, I want to see whether the first officer can make up for her mistake, I want to see the relationship between the second officer and his husband, I want to learn more about the plucky security officer, and on and on.

To put it simply I care about the characters and their stories.

Discovery on the other hand, after seeing the first two episode, well I don't give two shits about Michelle.
 
Star Trek: Discovery is good. The Orville is good. The Expanse is good.

We literally have three good space shows on TV right now. Like my man John Crichton always said, "wait for the wheel." It was coming eventually.

Oh man, the Expanse is really good. From those three shows I'd rank them...

The Expanse
The Orville
Star Trek: Discovery

I really want to like Discovery more, but so far they haven't given me anything to want to like it more. Hopefully that will change. My wife watched the first episode and totally skipped out on the second one. she said she didn't care what happened.
 
Michelle was my favorite thing about it. I think I.....love her! Then they had to kill her character...so frustrating.
Here;s the thing - What we saw (first hand) was Burnham's backstory. These two episodes were a prologue. I say this because originally the show was green lit for 13 episodes; then CBS added 2 more to the first season order. I bet what happened is that they were planning to tell the incidents we in these first two episodes via flashbacks in other episodes. ;probably what happened (and this was still while Fuller was involved) was that the Producers petitioned to be able to tell Burnham's background story 'first hand' for the audience in the show - so CBS gave them two more episodes to do just that <--- And that's what kicked off the season.

That's why producers are saying the third episode could be considered a 'second pilot' as it was originally slated to be the opening episode before the production staff had the idea to show this element of Burnham's backstory first hand on the show.
 
That's why producers are saying the third episode could be considered a 'second pilot' as it was originally slated to be the opening episode before the production staff had the idea to show this element of Burnham's backstory first hand on the show.

I'm not so sure. These episodes were written by Fuller according to the credits.
 
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