Nona certainly kept me glued to the screen.Yeah, but it also had Nona and the Mugato. Weird things that help sell that it as taking place on a far off land with its own problems.

Nona certainly kept me glued to the screen.Yeah, but it also had Nona and the Mugato. Weird things that help sell that it as taking place on a far off land with its own problems.
How? How could a clean slate lose a potential audience?And would have lost a lot of a potential audience.
Tribbles.You know if the Klingons aren't the Russians anymore who will be the Russians...
It's not a clean slate though. It's a setting in far future with history from TNG era forward. Even if DSC doesn't match the exact look or tone of TOS, it is set in a time frame than even casual audiences know and have a reference point to-Kirk and Spock.How? How could a clean slate lose a potential audience?
Yes, there IS that and I wish they had gone in that direction.All could have been avoided if this show was set in the mid-to-late 25th century instead of being another goddamn prequel.
It would be a clean slate involving mostly an untold timeline. Yes there have been references and touched upon moments beyond TNG, DS9 and Voyager but nothing like the backed up history between Enterprise and TOS. A casual audience adapted to every forward based edition to the franchise before, they embraced it with each of the aforementioned Trek series from TNG to Voy lasting seven seasons each.It's not a clean slate though. It's a setting in far future with history from TNG era forward. Even if DSC doesn't match the exact look or tone of TOS, it is set in a time frame than even casual audiences know and have a reference point to-Kirk and Spock.
In my opinion, instead of going for the 25th century, just go for a reboot.
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Yes, there IS that and I wish they had gone in that direction.
I'm not opposed to the presentation of Discovery, canonically speaking, but I find it hard to believe that several minutes of straight Klingon at the beginning of a new series was going to draw in casual viewers to begin with.And would have lost a lot of a potential audience.
Versus GoT?I'm not opposed to the presentation of Discovery, canonically speaking, but I find it hard to believe that several minutes of straight Klingon at the beginning of a new series was going to draw in casual viewers to begin with.
I disagree. The history is not as complex as at first glance. There are plenty of assumptions, based upon a wide variety of materials (Books, RPGs, etc) but it is not as explored as one might think.It would be a clean slate involving mostly an untold timeline. Yes there have been references and touched upon moments beyond TNG, DS9 and Voyager but nothing like the backed up history between Enterprise and TOS. A casual audience adapted to every forward based edition to the franchise before, they embraced it with each of the aforementioned Trek series from TNG to Voy lasting seven seasons each.
Versus GoT?![]()
My wife, who is arguably a bigger Trek fan than I, got up and left the room after about a minute of T'Mushmouth's opening bit. I can only imagine the bewilderment of a newbie.I'm not opposed to the presentation of Discovery, canonically speaking, but I find it hard to believe that several minutes of straight Klingon at the beginning of a new series was going to draw in casual viewers to begin with.
I don't watch GoT. Does it have long subtitled scenes in artificial languages?
My biggest annoyance with the whole thing was, unlike TNG's Klingons, these sounded like a heavily drugged version of the Looney Tunes' Tazmanian Devil attempting to recite poetry while eating the book. It could have, and should have, been handled much better.In any case, I don't see what makes watching a subtitled scene in an artificial SF&F language any different from watching a subtitled scene or even an entire movie in another human language. People can handle it.
Kor
Earth-Two and the Multiverse were created in the 1960s. Prior to that, they were all just Superman stories. Even today there's no concenses on where the "Earth-Two" Superman ends and the Earth-One Superman begins. The majority of Golden Age stories feature the Daily Planet, does that mean they happened to the Earth-One Superman???If you really want to dig into that, that Superman exists on Earth-Two, or did, or whatever with the crazy multiverse of DC.
The people behind Discovery and the people behind Superman in the 40's, 50's and 60's are and were doing the former.There is a difference between actively retconning something and just ignoring it for shits and giggles.
There is never a "clean slate". All of the 24th Century shows leaned heavily on TOS and each other.How? How could a clean slate lose a potential audience?
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