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Are the new Klingons supposed to be White Republicans?

You know if the Klingons aren't the Russians anymore who will be the Russians and represent Putin and his influence on Trump. He has helped give Trump power just as much as the alt right. I hope they work that into the metaphor. How does one also make a statement on "Fake News" and the internet in Trek.

Jason
 
How? How could a clean slate lose a potential audience?
It's not a clean slate though. It's a setting in far future with history from TNG era forward. Even if DSC doesn't match the exact look or tone of TOS, it is set in a time frame than even casual audiences know and have a reference point to-Kirk and Spock.

In my opinion, instead of going for the 25th century, just go for a reboot.
 
All could have been avoided if this show was set in the mid-to-late 25th century instead of being another goddamn prequel.
Yes, there IS that and I wish they had gone in that direction.
 
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It's not a clean slate though. It's a setting in far future with history from TNG era forward. Even if DSC doesn't match the exact look or tone of TOS, it is set in a time frame than even casual audiences know and have a reference point to-Kirk and Spock.

In my opinion, instead of going for the 25th century, just go for a reboot.
It would be a clean slate involving mostly an untold timeline. Yes there have been references and touched upon moments beyond TNG, DS9 and Voyager but nothing like the backed up history between Enterprise and TOS. A casual audience adapted to every forward based edition to the franchise before, they embraced it with each of the aforementioned Trek series from TNG to Voy lasting seven seasons each.
 
I'm not opposed to the presentation of Discovery, canonically speaking, but I find it hard to believe that several minutes of straight Klingon at the beginning of a new series was going to draw in casual viewers to begin with.
Versus GoT? :shrug:
It would be a clean slate involving mostly an untold timeline. Yes there have been references and touched upon moments beyond TNG, DS9 and Voyager but nothing like the backed up history between Enterprise and TOS. A casual audience adapted to every forward based edition to the franchise before, they embraced it with each of the aforementioned Trek series from TNG to Voy lasting seven seasons each.
I disagree. The history is not as complex as at first glance. There are plenty of assumptions, based upon a wide variety of materials (Books, RPGs, etc) but it is not as explored as one might think.

It is also familiar enough to have that nostalgic draw as well as building upon something new, both as a streaming platform and visually.
 
I'm not opposed to the presentation of Discovery, canonically speaking, but I find it hard to believe that several minutes of straight Klingon at the beginning of a new series was going to draw in casual viewers to begin with.
My wife, who is arguably a bigger Trek fan than I, got up and left the room after about a minute of T'Mushmouth's opening bit. I can only imagine the bewilderment of a newbie.
 
I don't watch GoT. Does it have long subtitled scenes in artificial languages?

That's what I went and looked up. First episode of the series started with humans doing human things in a fantasy environment.

Could be missing something but way too lazy to open up Amazon Prime. :P
 
In any case, I don't see what makes watching a subtitled scene in an artificial SF&F language any different from watching a subtitled scene or even an entire movie in another human language. People can handle it.

Kor
 
Usually when watching a foreign film(with subtitles), it doesn't take long before it feels like I'm hearing it in my own language.
 
In any case, I don't see what makes watching a subtitled scene in an artificial SF&F language any different from watching a subtitled scene or even an entire movie in another human language. People can handle it.

Kor
My biggest annoyance with the whole thing was, unlike TNG's Klingons, these sounded like a heavily drugged version of the Looney Tunes' Tazmanian Devil attempting to recite poetry while eating the book. It could have, and should have, been handled much better.
 
If you really want to dig into that, that Superman exists on Earth-Two, or did, or whatever with the crazy multiverse of DC.
Earth-Two and the Multiverse were created in the 1960s. Prior to that, they were all just Superman stories. Even today there's no concenses on where the "Earth-Two" Superman ends and the Earth-One Superman begins. The majority of Golden Age stories feature the Daily Planet, does that mean they happened to the Earth-One Superman???
There is a difference between actively retconning something and just ignoring it for shits and giggles.
The people behind Discovery and the people behind Superman in the 40's, 50's and 60's are and were doing the former.
 
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