Did Starfleet have a facility on Vulcan?
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On the world where I was born
Lived a man with blood of green
And he told us of his life
In a uniform with Starfleet sheen
So we joined the Academy
Young cadets, with dreams so high
Then we moved onto the decks
Of the Starship Enterprise
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise.
And the redshirts are on board
Many more of them live next door
They all fall down, but there are more...
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise.
As we live a life of ease
Every one of us has all we need
Hull of gray, the Captain wise
On the Starship Enterprise
Lived a man with blood of green
And he told us of his life
In a uniform with Starfleet sheen
So we joined the Academy
Young cadets, with dreams so high
Then we moved onto the decks
Of the Starship Enterprise
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise.
And the redshirts are on board
Many more of them live next door
They all fall down, but there are more...
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
We all live on the Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise
Starship Enterprise.
As we live a life of ease
Every one of us has all we need
Hull of gray, the Captain wise
On the Starship Enterprise
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Polls are closed. We have a winner.
Ah, look at all the Starfleet people
Ah, look at all the Maquis people
Kathryn Janeway, picks up the rice
On her ship where a wedding has been
(Tom and B'Elanna)
Kate's at the window, wearing the face
Of somebody whose coffee is cold
Chakotay's not bold...
All the Voyager people
Where do they all come from?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all belong?
Lieutenant Tuvok, writing security reports that no one will hear
No one comes near
Look at him working, logically making ship's logs when there's nobody there
What does he care?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all come from?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all belong?
Kathryn Janeway crashed into the Timeship, was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Lieutenant Paris, pilots the ship with his hands as he steers from the helm
Not overwhelmed
All the Voyager people
Where do they all come from?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all belong?
Ah, look at all the Maquis people
Kathryn Janeway, picks up the rice
On her ship where a wedding has been
(Tom and B'Elanna)
Kate's at the window, wearing the face
Of somebody whose coffee is cold
Chakotay's not bold...
All the Voyager people
Where do they all come from?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all belong?
Lieutenant Tuvok, writing security reports that no one will hear
No one comes near
Look at him working, logically making ship's logs when there's nobody there
What does he care?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all come from?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all belong?
Kathryn Janeway crashed into the Timeship, was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Lieutenant Paris, pilots the ship with his hands as he steers from the helm
Not overwhelmed
All the Voyager people
Where do they all come from?
All the Voyager people
Where do they all belong?
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I was gonna submit "Captain Decker's Lonely Dead Ship Band"...then I remembered he was a commodore. Goddamn canon! 
Regardless his rank, he was still the Constellation's captain, and can therefore still be addressed as "Captain Decker." Yes, that even applies to officers with ranks higher than Captain. Indeed, Decker's official log was still called the Captain's Log.I was gonna submit "Captain Decker's Lonely Dead Ship Band"...then I remembered he was a commodore. Goddamn canon!
That's between him and Mrs Decker.
DA WINNAH AND NEW CHAMPEEEN!!!
I'll allow it.
Hey Kirk
(Hey Jude)
Hello, Goodbye, Live long and prosper
(Hello, Goodbye)
Saurian Brandy, forever
(Strawberry fields, forever)
Warbird
(Blackbird)
(Latinum in the sky with Dilithium)
Lucy in the sky with Diamonds
(Hey Jude)
Hello, Goodbye, Live long and prosper
(Hello, Goodbye)
Saurian Brandy, forever
(Strawberry fields, forever)
Warbird
(Blackbird)
(Latinum in the sky with Dilithium)
Lucy in the sky with Diamonds
My interpretation of Starfleet and it's relations to member worlds is that if Starfleet is needed, it will be there. However on Vulcan we know it's not needed.
Vulcan maintains it's own exploration fleet, and they potentially still maintain a defensive force. It has no need for Starfleet to be on the planet.
Earth is the exception. I have always believed that Earth acts as a district of sorts of the Federation while also being a member world. Earth has no self defense force, because that's Starfleet. Human dominance makes sense within Starfleet because of this. An Andorian can join Starfleet or the Andorian Guard to defend Andoria. Humans join Starfleet.
Vulcan maintains it's own exploration fleet, and they potentially still maintain a defensive force. It has no need for Starfleet to be on the planet.
Earth is the exception. I have always believed that Earth acts as a district of sorts of the Federation while also being a member world. Earth has no self defense force, because that's Starfleet. Human dominance makes sense within Starfleet because of this. An Andorian can join Starfleet or the Andorian Guard to defend Andoria. Humans join Starfleet.
ST ENT showed that the native armed forces still exist. Reed joined Starfleet instead of the Royal Navy. It has never been stated or implied that nations states stopped existing under a one world earth government (perhaps similar to the present day E.U). Earth would have its own defense force for the planet, Starfleet operates in space.
Earth is not a "district". It's a normal Federation member world like any other. It enjoys no special status. The government of United Earth didn't disappear when the Federation was formed...
Yes, the Federation capital buildings (and Starfleet headquarters) are located on Earth, but that doesn't mean anything.
Yes, the Federation capital buildings (and Starfleet headquarters) are located on Earth, but that doesn't mean anything.
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I would hope that all notions of "districts" would have long since disappeared. It's undemocratic, unrealistic and inefficient. There's absolutely no logical reason why Washington, DC (for example) shouldn't be a state.
I mean, Canada does just fine with Ottawa, doesn't it? Ottawa is just a normal Canadian city, even though it's the capital. So it is with Earth in the Federation.
I mean, Canada does just fine with Ottawa, doesn't it? Ottawa is just a normal Canadian city, even though it's the capital. So it is with Earth in the Federation.
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But also no logical reason it must be a state.
Repealing The Organic Act of 1801 would allow the residents of Washington DC to vote for members of Congress without DC being a state.
While the residents of DC want the area to be a state, the majority of Americans in general don't want it to be one.
And I believe the Constitution forbids creating a new state from a piece of another, DC was separated from Maryland to be a district, not a state.
Or maybe not the entire city of Paris, but a certain number of buildings within a area of Paris. Similar to the UN Headquarter buildings in New York City.
This grouping of buildings (dozens certainly) possible could be legally (diplomatically?) separate from the city of Paris itself.
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To handle internal/local problems, your own country/region/city's forces. As back-up to that internal force or to handle situations with interplanetary consequences, Starfleet.
Starfleet doesn't arrest petty thieves who stay on Earth or another planet, but they're aware of/can find out about outstanding warrants and will detain individuals who travel in space or to Starfleet-controlled areas, much as the FBI gets involved when criminals cross state lines, or another US law enforcement body would if a criminal with US citizenship did something in another country.
