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[JD]

This seems to be a hang-up for some. The thing is, I'm not sure what they could have done that would have been acceptable to everybody. Even some have mentioned the props (which you are okay with) are too advanced. Anything that even looks like modern 2017 technology would be too advanced.

This is another thing more people need to remember, we've advanced beyond a lot of the kind of stuff we saw in TOS, so if we want to stay true to TOS then the tech on the show would end up being behind a lot of today's tech. And yes I'm not an idiot, so I'm not including things like transporters and warp drives in this.

Well, when people say "an iPhone is a dumb terminal", and continue to make that point, am I supposed to say "oh yeah, you're right, my bad"?

No.

When they're right, you kinda are.

A Communicator seems today like a very military style technology. As in a purpose built item that does one thing very well so the person in the field will survive. While a smartphone might have many more functions, they would likely distract or take away from the need to communicate with others and especially the starship in orbit.

So instead of splitting the processing power to a million different things, they devote it all to communicating with other people?

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

So it's settled.

As long as we change pretty much every aspect of the bridge from structure to consoles to lighting, we can still use it.

Triggers Broom engineering.

He might as well have said "The sets from the 60's aren't that bad. All you have to do is exactly what the Discovery redesign has done, more or less, and it's perfect."

 

[Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai]

I don't compare an iPhone to a communicator. I compare it to a padd. My iPhone can hold over 250 GB of data. Padds on Star Trek, even in the 24th century, don't seem to be able to hold more than one document at a time. When Picard was researching something, he'd have his desk scattered with padds. Several times someone would deliver a padd to another department by walking to them and handing it over, rather than shooting it to the cloud or local server. I had to laugh when Neelix had found Seven's parents' research journals and had to download them onto at least ten different padds which he then delivered to Seven in a big box he needed both arms to carry! I don't just think, I know, that my iPhone could have held all the data he delivered to her with room to spare.

 

[Ithekro]

So instead of splitting the processing power to a million different things, they devote it all to communicating with other people?

A very military like functionality. One device programmed to do one thing very well and nothing else. We don't know all of what a communicator can do in the 23rd century. We know the 24th century comm badges reduced this to a tiny worn item that could also be used to track someone's location, and has a small amount of other uses depending on the electronics skills of the person fooling around with it.

 

[gottacook]

What almost no one foresaw in the 1960s (and even later) was the pace of miniaturization. Room-sized business computers in refrigerated rooms were not uncommon even as late as the 1980s. When Star Trek's communicators were conceived in the mid-1960s, FM stereo receivers - which were then a fairly new offering - used vacuum tubes (the good ones did, anyway).

So, of course, the real question is "Why give yourselves the myriad difficulties inherent in another prequel series? Why not go post-DS9/Voyager?" If anyone can point me to a thread offering good arguments in favor of the choice they made, please do so.

 

[Jayson1]

So it's settled.

As long as we change pretty much every aspect of the bridge from structure to consoles to lighting, we can still use it.

Triggers Broom engineering.

Basically that's true. Keep the basic shapes of the consoles and keep the captain's chair the same with a slight change in the buttons on it and it would work for me.

Jason

I should also add I would also keep the same color scheme for the new touchscreens and some of the uniforms would look more like we see in the cage though I would bring in more variety so everyone isn't wearing the same outfit. Maybe some fatigues or some protective outfits for engineers and "mechanic" style jumpsuits for them as well. Lab coats for scientist etc. Also I hope we see some people wearing glasses.


Jason

 

[starmike]

Personally I think a mix like in ENT would be perfect, but to some people, it needs to be "pure TOS" because TOS was a definitive encyclopedia of the jargon of the time... If Scotty didn't say it, it didn't exist. The whole argument was based on one tweet:

https://twitter.com/karterhol/status/909492963578855424

Apparently, the fact that Ted used the word once (even outside of a script) means his claims about being in love with TOS are bogus, he doesn't understand the time period and has no business writing stories set in it.

Says the guy who thinks iPhones are "dumb terminals".

 

[BillJ]

So, of course, the real question is "Why give yourselves the myriad difficulties inherent in another prequel series? Why not go post-DS9/Voyager?" If anyone can point me to a thread offering good arguments in favor of the choice they made, please do so.

23rd century is more popular. They want to hopefully tether themselves to the cultural icon that is the original Star Trek. But without the pesky sets, ships and terminology.

 

[Longinus]

23rd century is more popular. They want to hopefully tether themselves to the cultural icon that is the original Star Trek. But without the pesky sets, ships and terminology.

It is actually a bit weird that they didn't go at least superficially more TOSish look with colourful tunics and stuff. I mean assuming it is set in TOS era to benefit from the cult status of that show, it would make sense to mimic some of the iconic visual elements. Though JJ films already kinda did that, so maybe they wanted to set themselves apart from them.

 

[Tuskin38]

Well they've said things will match TOS more and more as the timeline advances.

 

[Noname Given]

It is actually a bit weird that they didn't go at least superficially more TOSish look with colourful tunics and stuff. I mean assuming it is set in TOS era to benefit from the cult status of that show, it would make sense to mimic some of the iconic visual elements. Though JJ films already kinda did that, so maybe they wanted to set themselves apart from them.

^^^^
I tend to agree at least with regard to the Uniforms; but again, while I'm a bit disappointed, it's not a deal breaker for me. This show will survive or fail based on the characters and their story.

 

[BillJ]

Well they've said things will match TOS more and more as the timeline advances.

They're already smack in the middle between "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before".

 

[Tuskin38]

They're already smack in the middle between "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before".

And Cage didn't look much like TOS. It was duller.

 

[BillJ]

^^^^
I tend to agree at least with regard to the Uniforms; but again, while I'm a bit disappointed, it's not a deal breaker for me. This show will survive or fail based on the characters and their story.

Those uniforms are awful. Whomever designed them should be forced to watch season two Space: 1999 reruns non-stop for the rest of their natural lives.

 

[BillJ]

And Cage didn't look much like TOS. It was duller.

You mean except the sets. The uniforms are similar as well.

 

[Tuskin38]

You mean except the sets. The uniforms are similar as well.

I'm talking colour wise.

We already seem to have those colourful data cards based on a recent promo. Or something similar to them.

 

[starmike]

It is actually a bit weird that they didn't go at least superficially more TOSish look with colourful tunics and stuff. I mean assuming it is set in TOS era to benefit from the cult status of that show, it would make sense to mimic some of the iconic visual elements. Though JJ films already kinda did that, so maybe they wanted to set themselves apart from them.

*facepalm*

Doesn't anyone read the news? It's been rumored that they'll get the colored uniforms by the end of the season.

 

[starmike]

Those uniforms are awful. Whomever designed them should be forced to watch season two Space: 1999 reruns non-stop for the rest of their natural lives.

The uniforms are pretty amazing, except the gold bands at the shoulder, I think that's a bit overdone, but I really like them.

 

[Jayson1]

*facepalm*

Doesn't anyone read the news? It's been rumored that they'll get the colored uniforms by the end of the season.

I didn't hear about that. I did read about how I think they couldn't do uniforms that looked more like we saw on "TOS" because I think those belong to the Kelvin Universe property.

Jason

 

[Tuskin38]

I didn't hear about that. I did read about how I think they couldn't do uniforms that looked more like we saw on "TOS" because I think those belong to the Kelvin Universe property.

Jason

That isn't true.

In fact they prototyped uniforms using colour before they setttled on the current ones.
And someone visiting the set saw full colour uniforms.