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[Noname Given]

^ And of course, by 24th century, you mean 21st, 22nd, and 24th.

No, I mean 24th 'Utopian' style TNG character (The Characters in ENT and TOS were not like the uni-minded often pompous mannequins of TNG that all had pretty much the same view/response to Federation life and issues<-- Unless there was a special family issue or alien influence involved.)

 

[starmike]

But that really wasn't what I wanted. I wanted something that felt visually connected to TOS, but there was no need for a carbon copy. Outside of some of the props, the look of Discovery is a miss by a country mile for me.

And that's OK, because 60s sets would never fly today. If DSC had those kinds of sets it would get laughed out of existence.

I mean, shit, today's iPhones do more than TOS' communicators.

 

[zar]

No, I mean 24th 'Utopian' style TNG character (The Characters in ENT and TOS were not like the uni-minded often pompous mannequins of TNG that all had pretty much the same view/response to Federation life and issues<-- Unless there was a special family issue or alien influence involved.)

You were also referring to dialog and uniforms. As we've already gone over, the terminology spans the entire history of Trek. Uniforms were also canonically single-primary-color for the vast majority of 2 centuries of Starfleet history with TOS and TNG/early DS9 being the odd ones out. Unlike some people I see the entirety of Star Trek as world-building and from what I've seen Discovery will fit into the tapestry quite well.

 

[zar]

I mean, shit, today's iPhones do more than TOS' communicators.

Not this again. A smartphone is a dumb terminal. A Trek communicator is an entire network infrastructure in a box. Nothing remotely close to it exists in real life.

 

[starmike]

Not this again. A smartphone is a dumb terminal. A Trek communicator is an entire network infrastructure in a box. Nothing remotely close to it exists in real life.

Yeah, I remember Kirk checking his apps....


A smartphone is not a "dumb terminal". I don't get paid to write "dumb terminal" apps.

More of these for you:

 

[Longinus]

And that's OK, because 60s sets would never fly today. If DSC had those kinds of sets it would get laughed out of existence.

But that's not what BillJ said and not what most people who wished for more TOS-faithful approach wanted. Look at the props, the phaser, the communicator and the tricorder. That's the sort of approach some people, myself included, would have liked to see taken in overall aesthetics of the show.

 

[starmike]

But that's not what BillJ said and not what most people who wished for more TOS-faithful approach wanted. Look at the props, the phaser, the communicator and the tricorder. That's the sort of approach some people, myself included, would have liked to see taken in overall aesthetics of the show.

Well, it didn't happen, and even more than a year ago I knew it wouldn't happen.

 

[galad2003]

Not this again. A smartphone is a dumb terminal. A Trek communicator is an entire network infrastructure in a box. Nothing remotely close to it exists in real life.

These terms don't mean what you think they mean.

"The function of a terminal is confined to display and input of data; a device with significant local programmable data processing capability may be called a "smart terminal" or fat client. A terminal that depends on the host computer for its processing power is called a "dumb terminal" or thin client. A personal computer can run terminal emulator software that replicates the function of a terminal, sometimes allowing concurrent use of local programs and access to a distant terminal host system."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_terminal

My smart phone is much more than a thin client. I am not accessing another computer through my smartphone, the smartphone itself is the computer.

I don't even know what you mean by "A trek communicator is an entire network infrastructure in a box." Please elaborate.

 

[zar]

Yeah, I remember Kirk checking his apps....


A smartphone is not a "dumb terminal". I don't get paid to write "dumb terminal" apps.

More of these for you:

Do your apps work in airplane mode? If not, then yes you do. This is what I'm referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client

The "communicator" aspect of smartphones will instantly be useless anywhere other than planet Earth, because it's entirely reliant on a huge global network infrastructure. Trek communicators do everything completely autonomously.

 

[Longinus]

I mean, shit, today's iPhones do more than TOS' communicators.

Oh! Which iPhone can communicate to the orbit without support infrastructure?

 

[Jayson1]

And that's OK, because 60s sets would never fly today. If DSC had those kinds of sets it would get laughed out of existence.

I mean, shit, today's iPhones do more than TOS' communicators.

The set's don't look all that bad from the 60's. You just have to give them a paint job with more texture. Use modern computer graphics and the buttons can be replaced with touchpads. Replace the chairs and railing with a more metal looking railing. Make the bridge bigger, maybe with a upper and lower deck. Toss in a few new things like holographic projections, robot. Use the same dark look they are using and make the bridge feel busy with tons of extra's moving about all the time. Also establish the ship as being kind of old and show some wear and tear.

Jason

 

[starmike]

Do your apps work in airplane mode? If not, then yes you do. This is what I'm referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client

The "communicator" aspect of smartphones will instantly be useless anywhere other than planet Earth, because it's entirely reliant on a huge global network infrastructure. Trek communicators do everything completely autonomously.

You have NO IDEA how an iPhone works, do you?

 

[zar]

I don't even know what you mean by "A trek communicator is an entire network infrastructure in a box." Please elaborate.

This is what you think a present day "communicator" looks like:

This is what it really looks like:

 

[starmike]

Oh! Which IPhone can communicate to the orbit without support infrastructure?

You're being pedantic. Especially when all you need to communicate with a ship in orbit is a special communications system, but you know damn well that's now what I'm talking about.

 

[starmike]

This is what you think a present day "communicator" looks like:

This is what it really looks like:

Yeah, that's not how it works.

YOU think this is what an iPhone is:

 

[starmike]

 

[zar]

You have NO IDEA how an iPhone works, do you?

Hey, let's not get insulting. Matter of fact I'm a developer too. You just were missing my point.

Yeah, that's not how it works.

YOU think this is what an iPhone is:

Because that is what an iPhone is, except smaller, faster, and with more storage.

You're being pedantic. Especially when all you need to communicate with a ship in orbit is a special communications system, but you know damn well that's now what I'm talking about.

Yup, and all iPhones have to do is communicate with other iPhones around the globe. Funny how they can't do that without a service provider.

 

[Longinus]

You're being pedantic. Especially when all you need to communicate with a ship in orbit is a special communications system, but you know damn well that's now what I'm talking about.

They probably have no time to play Pokémon Go when on away missions.

 

[starmike]

Because that is what an iPhone is, except smaller, faster, and with more storage.

Bullshit. Do you know how much tech is in an iPhone? Have you ever developed for one? I don't remember my VT100 checking GPS position, blood sugar count, atmospheric conditions, checking a network on its own, determining calories burned based on activity.

 

[Jayson1]

Why would a communicator need to do anything other than serve as a phone? Updating the Tri-corder as a smartphone makes more sense and I guess you can say they should combine those two things but I know from using a phone it takes a moment to get to the phone part of your phone. You don't wanting to be messing with your communcator trying to get to the right app when you got a Mugato trying to kill you. You just want to press a button and talk into it and have someone beam you up.

Jason