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"Krypton" coming to SyFy from David Goyer

Why not just make a Superman series in the first place? People want to see Superman himself and not his forefathers

Because superman and his origins have been done how many times now?

So why not do something new that's not reheating what's already been done before.
 
I found him so underwhelming that I didn't even remember him, and I had to look up the character he played.

Well, that was as much on the writers as the actor, since they gave his character very little to do, then killed him off at the end of his first focus episode, then had the other characters basically just forget him.
 
A show just about Krypton's past really sound boring. I never found that premise appealing. It is just so pointless when you know that the planet will blow up some years later and everything the heroes and villains might do won't matter in the long run.
A movie just about the Titanic's maiden voyage really sounds boring. I never found that premise appealing.
It is just so pointless when you know that the ship will sink and everything the passengers and crew do won't matter in the long run.
 
Yup, nothing matters in the long run. Why tell stories set in the past, it doesn't matter since we know the outcome, right?! Terrible argument. Just tell interesting stories with interesting characters, that's all the premise you need.
 
Do you think the show will address that?

Every adaptation is free to reinvent the universe however it wants. This show's version of Krypton doesn't need to have higher gravity. After all, that was the original explanation for Superman's powers back in the '30s and '40s -- that he was John Carter of Mars in reverse, able to perform feats of superstrength and leap high in the air on Earth because his anatomy was evolved for higher gravity. But ever since the Silver Age, the explanation has been that Earth's yellow sun supercharges his cells and gives him those powers, and that if you take away the yellow sunlight, he's no stronger than a human. Within that paradigm, the high-gravity notion is actually contradictory, because if his body was really adapted for high gravity, then he'd still be stronger than a human even under red sunlight.
 
It isn't.
Goyer created it so it probably won't contradict what's established in MoS, but it's not officially part of the same universe.

Creators are perfectly capable of contradicting themselves, especially when they're intentionally setting something in a different universe. There are plenty of cases of the same creator working on multiple incompatible incarnations of a continuity. For instance, Alan Burnett has worked as a writer or producer in many incompatible DC continuities, including Super Friends, the DC Animated Universe, The Batman, Krypto the Superdog, and all the different continuities of the DVD movie line. And Greg Berlanti wrote and produced the Green Lantern film before creating the Arrowerse (the two don't overlap much, but they have incompatible versions of Amanda Waller).

So while Krypton's continuity may have some conceptual overlap with MoS's, I'm sure it will diverge as much and as often as the story needs it to.
 
Creators are perfectly capable of contradicting themselves, especially when they're intentionally setting something in a different universe.

Well obviously, but the original intention here was to set it in the same universe, the show started development from a prequel mindset with the intent of expanding upon what was established in MoS.
Of course, considering how long the show's been in development they've had time to scratch everything and start over fifty times, so it's a big question how much of that original plan survived till now...
 
Well obviously, but the original intention here was to set it in the same universe, the show started development from a prequel mindset with the intent of expanding upon what was established in MoS.

Do we know that for a fact, or is that just what people assumed? True, Goyer did tell the press "It takes place 200 years before Man of Steel," but he could've been speaking figuratively, just saying that it was 200 years before the destruction of Krypton, and using MoS as the reference for that because it was the most recent screen portrayal of that event and the version thereof that he'd previously worked on. Fans tend to be obsessed with talking about "universes" and staking out clearly delineated borders between one continuity and another, but creators and producers not so much, since it's still the same basic characters and stories and intellectual property no matter how many times the continuity is reinvented. Which is why audiences often misunderstand the things film and TV makers say about the relationships between works and need the comments clarified later.

By the same token, just because we didn't find out about the time-travel aspect until they saw fit to announce it, that doesn't necessarily mean it was added later. It could've been the plan from the beginning, which would probably mean they always intended it to be in its own continuity.

After all, really, how plausible is it that they would ever have even considered trying to recreate the really, really expensive, digitally created environment and technology of MoS's Krypton on a TV budget? They would've known going in that they'd have to make their version of Krypton look considerably more Earthlike. It seems to me that, even if they had started out with the tentative idea of making it a prequel, that idea would swiftly have fallen by the wayside as soon as they considered the logistical and budgetary issues.
 
So... this show has been in development since 2014!

It better be the best thing ever. :mad:

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So... this show has been in development since 2014!

It better be the best thing ever. :mad:

That's not really unusual. Some shows and films spend a decade or two in development before finally getting to the screen. Many never actually make it there.
 
A show just about Krypton's past really sound boring. I never found that premise appealing. It is just so pointless when you know that the planet will blow up some years later and everything the heroes and villains might do won't matter in the long run.

This whole time travelling aspect they have added though doesn't make it much better. It is still a stupid premise.

Why not just make a Superman series in the first place? People want to see Superman himself and not his forefathers. This time travelling nonsense is not a proper replacement for the absence of Superman. Just get the rights to Superman himself for a series and if DC doesn't comply, why not just make a series with a lesser known DC or Marvel superhero and put them in their usual environment and not on Krypton. It worked for other channels. They could be even really innovative and just create a superhero themselves.
This was never meant to be a Superman show, Goyer got the idea to do after he did the Krypton stuff in Man of Steel.
Anybody who thinks you can't do a good story focused entirely on Krypton should check out Kevin J. Anderson's novel The Last Days of Krypton. Although that does focus on the days leading up to Krypton's destruction, so there is a bit more of a direct connection to the Superman mythos.
 
This was never meant to be a Superman show, Goyer got the idea to do after he did the Krypton stuff in Man of Steel.
Anybody who thinks you can't do a good story focused entirely on Krypton should check out Kevin J. Anderson's novel The Last Days of Krypton. Although that does focus on the days leading up to Krypton's destruction, so there is a bit more of a direct connection to the Superman mythos.

I don't know that book, plays it in the Reeve superman movie time line?
 
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