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Discovery tackles current political divide

As long as they show a NON-BIASED look at both sides of the coin...I think it will be great.. But if its more like CNN of the future... not so much...

Could be interesting if they explored the topic of terrorism:

A ruthless house of Klingons unleashing indiscriminate terrorist attacks against civilian Federation targets: The other Klingon houses don't want a war with the Federation, while they at the same time support the Klingon terrorists in at least some of their aims and goals.

It would be interesting to see how the Federation would respond to an enemy, that can't be negotiated or reasoned with: An enemy that attacks the Federation either for religious reasons or because they're not Klingons.

It would also be a topic much more interesting to the worldwide audience of Star Trek, than a petty, current, political squabble that outside of North America will be met with a yawn and a shrug.
 
I'm sick to death of politics and social commentary in media. Yea it's Star Trek which is full of it in the past so I guess they feel obliged to do it now. But back in the day it was unique for Star Trek to do it now every show does it - and usually beats us over the head with it.

Doesn't matter anyhow as I am not paying for CBSAA even if this was the greatest show ever made. But this is one more reason Star Trek is not for me anymore. I guess I should move on.
 
Indeed, I don't think it'll be about the Klingon T'Rump who got to power thanks to enlisting illegal help from the devious Romulan Praetor P'Tin.

Star Trek has always been political, it's always tackled the issues of the day, it's clearly broadly fallen on the more progressive side of those issues, but it's never been party political. I don't expect Discovery to be any different.
 
Could be interesting if they explored the topic of terrorism:

A ruthless house of Klingons unleashing indiscriminate terrorist attacks against civilian Federation targets: The other Klingon houses don't want a war with the Federation, while they at the same time support the Klingon terrorists in at least some of their aims and goals.

It would be interesting to see how the Federation would respond to an enemy, that can't be negotiated or reasoned with: An enemy that attacks the Federation either for religious reasons or because they're not Klingons.

It would also be a topic much more interesting to the worldwide audience of Star Trek, than a petty, current, political squabble that outside of North America will be met with a yawn and a shrug.

And it would be about fifteen years late.

Kor
 
I'm sick to death of politics and social commentary in media. Yea it's Star Trek which is full of it in the past so I guess they feel obliged to do it now. But back in the day it was unique for Star Trek to do it now every show does it - and usually beats us over the head with it.

Doesn't matter anyhow as I am not paying for CBSAA even if this was the greatest show ever made. But this is one more reason Star Trek is not for me anymore. I guess I should move on.
If Trek isn't relevant when there are political powers all over the screen in these series, then it would seem cowardly. Yes, it's time for you to move on to Orville so you don't have to think at all.

RAMA
 
According to Seth, Orville is going to cover issues. It just isn't going to do it in a grimdark "knife in the back" fashion.

BTW, humor can be politically relevant. Think Dr. Strangelove.
 
According to Seth, Orville is going to cover issues. It just isn't going to do it in a grimdark "knife in the back" fashion.

BTW, humor can be politically relevant. Think Dr. Strangelove.
Yes, we've seen reviews of his misfired attempt at topicality in episode 3..that'll be a hoot to see.
 
According to Seth, Orville is going to cover issues. It just isn't going to do it in a grimdark "knife in the back" fashion.

BTW, humor can be politically relevant. Think Dr. Strangelove.
The setting, actors, and characters of The Orville show promise, but the actual pilot episode was unremarkable.
I'll give it more time to find its place. I hope it does.
 
Yes, we've seen reviews of his misfired attempt at topicality in episode 3..that'll be a hoot to see.

Yes. If we're all supposed to have an open mind about Discovery since we've only seen trailers then why not wait and see how badly The Orville attempts to prove it can cover serious topics?

At any rate, I wasn't so much as defending The Orville in particular but just the assertion that you can't cover a serious topic without being grimdark.
 
If Trek isn't relevant when there are political powers all over the screen in these series, then it would seem cowardly. Yes, it's time for you to move on to Orville so you don't have to think at all.

Trek isn't relevant, period.
 
Yes. If we're all supposed to have an open mind about Discovery since we've only seen trailers then why not wait and see how badly The Orville attempts to prove it can cover serious topics?

At any rate, I wasn't so much as defending The Orville in particular but just the assertion that you can't cover a serious topic without being grimdark.

Someone should warn Stanley Kubrick that he can't make Dr. Strangelove then. And Charlie Chaplin about The Great Dictator.
 
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If Trek isn't relevant when there are political powers all over the screen in these series, then it would seem cowardly. Yes, it's time for you to move on to Orville so you don't have to think at all.

RAMA

1) What does the Orville have to do with this? I don't understand why some people on here are so threatened by this show. They both can exist.
2) Just because I don't want to deal with politics when I watch a television show doesn't mean I don't want to think. Maybe I am just sick of thinking of politics? Christ, every show on TV seems to want to jam this crap down my throat. I get enough of it when I watch or read the news. Can't I just take an hour or so a day to watch a fun show without thinking about it some more? and without being attacked on the internet?
 
2) Just because I don't want to deal with politics when I watch a television show doesn't mean I don't want to think. Maybe I am just sick of thinking of politics? Christ, every show on TV seems to want to jam this crap down my throat. I get enough of it when I watch or read the news. Can't I just take an hour or so a day to watch a fun show without thinking about it some more? and without being attacked on the internet?

Star Trek used to represent an escape from the real world for me. That's pretty much ended. Doesn't mean Discovery will be a bad show, just that the expectations of it have changed.
 
The setting, actors, and characters of The Orville show promise, but the actual pilot episode was unremarkable.
I'll give it more time to find its place. I hope it does.

Agreed. There's a lot of room for a successful sci-fi comedy, IMO. Fingers crossed that it finds its footing.
 
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