Scenes in CBS This Morning segment!

[mattyhugh]

Not really, the Kirk <--> Dekker dynamic in TMP wouuld never have been in a TNG script/story. McCoy would have been tamer too.

Perhaps. But the Roddenberry's evolved humans were present. It was cold, cerebral, man was the creator, the god V'Ger was looking for. Much like how Q is God and humanity is now morally superior. Sure they didn't have the power of Q, but they had evolved and were morally superior.

 

[Noname Given]

Perhaps. But the Roddenberry's evolved humans were present. It was cold, cerebral, man was the creator, the god V'Ger was looking for. Much like how Q is God and humanity is now morally superior. Sure they didn't have the power of Q, but they had evolved and were morally superior.

It was a remake of TOS - "The Changeling" - with Star Wars level VFX and 2001 type set design all costing $40 million; which in 1979 was the most expensive film ever made to that date (Nov. 1979).

 

[USS Triumphant]

This could, of course, be truthfully said of William Shatner and his entire career.

Not in the slightest. Shatner was never on "The Walking Dead".

 

[Noname Given]

Was it that different from Riker/Shelby?

Well, remember 'TNG's - Best of Both Worlds" was PITCHED to Gene Roddenberry and he said, "No."

The reason BoBW got made was:
- GR was hospitalized.

- The current writing staff almost to a man was planning on moving on AFTER the 3rd Season finished production; so with GR in the Hospital, they basically said "Hey, lets do BoBW...what are they going to do? Fire us?"

- The Ckiffhanger was a basic FU to the situation because again, most of the writers wanted to leave after the season; so they wrote it with NO CLUE how whomever took over was going to resolve it.

Now, after that hospitalization, GR basically handed off whatever control he had (for health reasons); and as a result a number of those self same writers decided to stick with the show (BoBW was a major ratings bonanza and got people talking about TNG over the Summer) - and they were pissed at themselves as they only had themselves to blame for the story mess they got themselves into.

But my point? It is a fact GR rejected BoBW - so if he had retained control - the scenes between Riker and Shelby would never have been written. BoBW was probably one of the most TOS-like scripts ever produced for TNG. But again, here we have a lead staff writer bringing up Gr's 24th century 'Vision' on the ST: D set, so yes, I'm concerned it may only be 'trapping' that ST: D is set in the 23rd century 10 years prior to TOS. Again, I'm not expecting 1960ies themes - BUT the TOS era was hardly 'Utopian' and TMP still was more TOS than TNG overall - even though most of the TMP characters were in effect transplanted into/for ST:TNG itself.

 

[Christopher]

I think they have a different definition of "utopian" than me. They already said that the first season will focus on war. That is the opposite of utopian.

They mean that Earth/human society is utopian, not that the entire universe is. Humans no longer war on each other or attempt to wage war on other species, but they can't prevent others from waging war on them.

I thought Martin-Green's dialogue sounded a lot more natural than Michelle Yeoh's.

They both sounded fine to me. Burnham was raised by Vulcans, so naturally I'd expect her to have a somewhat stiff and formal delivery.

(sort of like the way Marina Sirtis' fake accent early in the first season of TNG made her acting sound very unnatural) -- although the difference here is that Yeoh is using her normal accent, which Sirtis later did as well.

No, Sirtis's own accent was Cockney, a working-class London accent, while Troi's became more along the lines of Received Standard English. (I say "was" because her own accent now has evolved into a sort of American/Cockney hybrid after living in the US so long.)

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I'm pretty sure they've said that the war/conflict with the Klingons will be the main driving force of the story arc. So I think the main question is whether or not every single episode revolves entirely around that conflict, or if they will step away from it at certain points. It will be the only story arc through the whole season, so I have a feeling that even if there are episodes not entirely focused on the conflict, they will still tie back to it in some way, like one of the Federation ships goes to a new planet looking for allies, or they're trying to prevent the Klingons from gaining territory.
It does look like Chris Obi as T'Kuvma, Mary Chieffo as L'Rell and Kenneth Mitchelll as Kol might be regulars, so there's a pretty good chance that most of the episodes will involve the Klingons in some way.

It does seem as if the Klingons will be in virtually every episode -- at least going by the IMDB cast list.

But my position is in response to this post by BBS member "Cake", with whom I respectfully disagree:

I think they have a different definition of "utopian" than me. They already said that the first season will focus on war. That is the opposite of utopian.

And that position is this:

Just because the show is about war does not mean it can't feature a society that can be considered "utopian"...
...Or at least as utopian as Star Trek has ever gotten, even though there has always been conflict, wars, and big bad alien threats (e.g., The Borg, The Dominion, Cardassians, Romulans, etc) throughout the 23rd and 24th century Star Trek universe.

Heck -- it could be argued there was more concerted conflict (more of a state of war with the various races I mentioned above) in TNG and DS9 than there was a similar state of war in TOS, and the TNG era (which includes DS9 ) is considered by fans as portraying the more utopian society.

 

[Philip Guyott]

This interview also contains another scene from the show:

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[mattyhugh]

It was a remake of TOS - "The Changeling" - with Star Wars level VFX and 2001 type set design all costing $40 million; which in 1979 was the most expensive film ever made to that date (Nov. 1979).

Right. None of which precludes my analysis

 

[JD]

This interview also contains another scene from the show:

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

That clip was in the link I posted earlier.

 

[Tosk]

And then that old myth that the kiss between Kirk and Uhura was the first interracial one on TV, which even a fast look on Wikipedia will show is wrong.

Yeah, I doubt that's going away any time soon. It's only going to get stronger.

 

[RAMA]

Definitely a confirmation that the temp FX were replaced...and it looks...fantastic!! The host is correct, it looks like a movie. Not TV. Trek fans are very lucky.

RAMA

 

[Michael]

Love what I'm seeing! SMG is awesome in the interviews and I think her performance in the clips is fine. Gotta agree though, that “first interracial kiss” myth is grating on me as well. Why not celebrate Star Trek's real achievements instead of dwelling on made-up ones?

 

[starmike]

I watched the Colbert scene at least 40 times

 

[Mudd]

Given that desert wind, it's a real good thing for Captain Georgiou that their footprints weren't entirely obliterated by the time they returned to the beginning point.

 

[Noname Given]

Given that desert wind, it's a real good thing for Captain Georgiou that their footprints weren't entirely obliterated by the time they returned to the beginning point.

And what, they had survival gear, but no communicators?

 

[cylkoth]

Tachyon storm blocking communications...Think man, think!

 

[Mudd]

And what, they had survival gear, but no communicators?

Ah, but they do have communicators. 35 seconds in:

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

But, you know Star Trek tech - it develops previously unmentioned limitations whenever a plot calls for it - I'm sure there's some reason that a sandstorm blocks a signal.

 

[RAMA]

Love what I'm seeing! SMG is awesome in the interviews and I think her performance in the clips is fine. Gotta agree though, that “first interracial kiss” myth is grating on me as well. Why not celebrate Star Trek's real achievements instead of dwelling on made-up ones?

Agreed on the interracial kiss. Trek did plenty of work to get the message out there for diversity..that non-kiss wasn't one of them.

SMG is gold in publicity, she's a natural born charisma machine.

RAMA

 

[Tuskin38]

Trek core posted this comparison on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/Trekcore/posts/1697527976926649

 

[Christopher]

And what, they had survival gear, but no communicators?

No doubt the preceding scenes will explain why they're unable to make contact.