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Most Offensive Star Trek Movies and Episodes

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Homeward -- Picard's and Troi's implication that obeying the prime directive to the letter is more important than trying to save at least a few people of that culture. Extinction is preferable to cultural contamination? Revolting.

(Apart from that moment, I actually do like the episode. And yes, it is only a TV show.)
 
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For me to find something offensive, I would have to take it seriously enough to allow it to affect me in that way. So no. There are real things in life worth being offended by. I'm not going to worry about a tv show.

We live in a world where everybody is offended by everything. I choose not to be.
Very well said.

Kor
 
What? So it's ok to deplace the indigenous population because they have something the more technological people want? So the Federation can just get rid of the natives on any planet that has the resources they want? I think you might want to rethink that.

Except that the Baku weren't the natives of the planet, and had a level of technology comparable to, if not superior to the Federation; Dougherty even pointed this out, when Picard claimed that the Prime Directive should have forbade the entire operation.

Given Michael Piller's obvious fascination with Native American culture, I can certainly believe that he intended for the situation to be an allegory for the Trail of Tears. However, having the Baku a technologically-advanced-but-not-really society ends up destroying the film's entire moral case. Instead of the intended allegory, it ends up more like someone discovering a substance that instantly cures all forms of cancer located under a hippie commune, and the hippies refusing to move away and allow the substance to be extracted on the grounds that they wouldn't be able to produce as good artwork and clothing if they weren't allowed to live there. Siding with them just comes across as absurdly stupid at best, and downright offensive at worst.
 
well a lot of TOS episodes for the day which were progressive for the day would be considered offensive today. So I hope people will try to make that distinction.
Except that the Baku weren't the natives of the planet, and had a level of technology comparable to, if not superior to the Federation; Dougherty even pointed this out, when Picard claimed that the Prime Directive should have forbade the entire operation.

Given Michael Piller's obvious fascination with Native American culture, I can certainly believe that he intended for the situation to be an allegory for the Trail of Tears. However, having the Baku a technologically-advanced-but-not-really society ends up destroying the film's entire moral case. Instead of the intended allegory, it ends up more like someone discovering a substance that instantly cures all forms of cancer located under a hippie commune, and the hippies refusing to move away and allow the substance to be extracted on the grounds that they wouldn't be able to produce as good artwork and clothing if they weren't allowed to live there. Siding with them just comes across as absurdly stupid at best, and downright offensive at worst.

1) The federation didn't know they were technologically advanced until mid movie
2) Advanced culture or not, being a stronger force does not give one the right to remove someone from their land because they have something you want.
3) It also doesn't give the Soona/Federation the right to destroy the environment in doing so. pretty sure the Soona plan was goign to wreck the Briar patch to carry out.

You may disagree with the way the Director portrayed this theme but I see nothing offensive with the theme at all.
 
well a lot of TOS episodes for the day which were progressive for the day would be considered offensive today. So I hope people will try to make that distinction.
I think this is very true with TOS, it was very much a product of the time. They tried to be as progressive as they could. Gene wanted the lead character to be a woman but the network wouldn't have it.
 
"Captain, I'm frightened," says the experienced head of department, (female) Lieutenant to her (male) commanding officer (the Captain) in a military organisation.
 
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2) Advanced culture or not, being a stronger force does not give one the right to remove someone from their land because they have something you want.

Let the less advanced cultures of the universe say...Amen. (Especially when they were living 300 years before you existed).
 
Vger23 is ultimately right, there is no point in being offended - certainly after a certain point. They're just stories, fiction, based loosely on real life and are left open to interpretations.

The offense, as I'd see it, might be more related to story ideas let down by poor execution or construction and not living up to their potential or wallowing in stereotypes.

"Code of Honor" and "Justice" are both extremely racist and overly simplistic in their approach. I do imagine how CoH wouldn't have been blinked at if the Ligonians were all white, so there's a lot more going on than just the basic script - audience perceptions also being an issue and I try to find other points of view. And the basic idea of people living by a code, utterly, is actually an interesting one - and actually shows how Picard is the one who has no honor, in this and other episodes since Picard violates the prime directive (PD) numerous times - along with the "reinterpretation of the week" that goes along with the PD that Picard makes at the time.

Still, can anybody attempt to say Jessie Lawrence Ferguson didn't steal the show as Lutan? He's a great actor who made a two-dimensional role far better than what was on paper.

And depending on source, Russ Mayberry was fired because he hired all black actors or because he was overtly racist toward the actors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Honor_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) cites references to both claims.

As for Justice, it doesn't even cover STDs and other problems that the story should be addressing as produced. What with the original storyline was about was a society that overdid the death penalty for any crime being the original focus. Rewrites turned the story from that into a brainless, continual orgy between oiled up people (who were all blond haired and blue-eyed so that's no less racist than hiring a bunch of actors who are all black). Add to the fire is how the writing was quick to shove aside any prime directive babble to get Wesley returned to the ship for no reason. The "Edo God" should have destroyed the Enterprise over Picard's antics.

Both stories had interesting plot points but were subverted.

Thankfully there are many season 1 episodes that set the bar higher than those two examples of "epic fail". Which includes "Symbiosis", which is nowhere near as bad as its reputation makes it out to be.

"The Outcast" is claimed by its makers it's about discussing gay people but what's shown on screen is closer to "our society things intercourse is bad so we make everyone in test tubes and use genetic engineering and drugs to prevent "the urges", but some still want to procreate in the old fashioned way". For which Jonathan Frakes himself said the claimed notion of the story would make more sense if the outcast that had the hots for Riker was male (which would still be open-ended enough to write off as any number of possibilities.) Even "Ethics" takes a more solid stance on its controversial points. "Outcast" feels like it belongs in season 1.

"Wolf in the Fold" - an otherwise great story is let down by the flimsy explanation that a bonk on the head led Scotty to become misogynist to the point of multiple premeditated murders of solely women. Yes, they're trying to make Scotty look like the baddie to the audience to get them to believe Scotty might even be responsible but, wow, it doesn't begin to work.

Also wanted to respond to some of these points:

Where to start!

We have Sisko and his war crimes in For the Uniform.

I still have to disagree with that premise. The Maquis are terrorists and already engaged in the same actions if not worse. Sisko couldn't continue to talk. Especially as the alliance with the Cardassians had been more proven at this point and the Maquis were doing what's far worse than "war crimes".

Eddington was the war criminal, wantonly acting in premeditated slaughter, disobeying orders, treason, treating with the enemy (rather directly), and so on.

Up the long ladder - killing is fine, so long as it's your clone. Not to mention the offensive Irish stereotyping.

I forgot about that one. On initial viewing I didn't notice the stereotype of the "drunken Irishman" and even back then I knew my ancestry, which includes Irish blood. Just a guy overburdened with stress who turned to alcohol. The next time I saw the episode, several years had gone by and - woah - I understand the episode is trying to show the same race having diverged culturally to have to work together again, but they did NOT need to resort to such one-dimensional stereotypes.

Killing the clone is mildly bothersome, since it was tantamount to abortion. And until I had read that Eartha Kitt was the product of a rape, my opinions were much different. The decision is still up to the individual (as Troi and Picard both rightly prove), but wow... "The Child" is an impressive episode for what it tackles. But I digress. It is still Pulaski and Riker who kill their own clones. That's fair.

Data’s supposed to be one of the smartest beings in the known universe? So who does he turn to for comedy advice?
Joe Piscopo.

The Okona episode was indeed outrageous - that's what the audience felt while sitting through all 44 minutes of it, for a multitude of reasons. :p

Elaan of Troyius. Let’s not mince words: this episode is about as sexist, chauvinistic, and borderline racist as original series Star Trek gets. It plays on stereotypes of women in general and Asian women in particular, and it depicts Kirk’s slapping of Elaan as a righteous act.

It's a (then-)modern and partial remake (or at least influenced by) of "The Taming of the Shrew". And rest assured, humans were far more myopic and sexist when the original was written, which was well over 400 years ago. The slap is inappropriate, but that then begs the question what would a person do as a response? If the episode is that bad, how should it be remade as?

Man, I could go on and on with TOS.... here are some fun ones of general sexism:

"Please sit and entertain me" - Khans chat up line in Space Seed

Khan was from another time with another set of beliefs. Add in the magnetism he was said to have as a leader type figure, Khan would say what's needed to win people over. And he had the hots for Marla. Who wouldn't?! (I'm more offended by Kirk shrugging off history so quickly, implying McGivers was useless on the ship only until they found the sleeper ship. Kirk's a real piece on that episode as well, given how he treats her and Uhura. He's arguably more sexist than Khan. )

That, and any actor other than Ricardo Montalban, apart from arguably Roger Delgado, couldn't begin to sell a line that needed confidence and suave magnetism to build supporters with. Not that I'm aware of, anyway - I couldn't see Ashton Kutcher, John Barrowman or Richard Howland acting it right. Yes, that's all typecasting based on known range from the actors brought up. Maybe if there's an audition one could sit through and analyze...

"suspect preys on women because women are more easily and more deeply terrified, generating more sheer horror than the male of the species.€" - Spock, Wolf in the fold

WitF was sexist for way too many reasons. But at the same time, they're saying this entity also took the form of Jack the Ripper. The treatment of Scotty in the episode seems worse in terms of using stereotypes against women and misogyny.

"The, er, impostor had some interesting qualities, wouldn't you say, Yeoman?" - Spock To Rand after being assaulted by Kirk in the enemy within.

Only Spock could get away with that line, Vulcans don't see things the way others do, not to mention being part human as well. Anyone with multiple backgrounds would. (I'm Irish, Scottish, and British, among others... there's already a plethora of war, conflict, and hatred from those three to those three over the eons. But it's not those eons anymore, long since then. Origins aren't always in direct line toeing with the present. "Evolution" is as much a relevant term as "learning", otherwise I'd feel as torn as a Capulet. Or maybe a Montague? )

Then again, why would a Vulcan mock? If he was not mocking but genuinely wondering in curiosity if Rand had the hots for Kirk in his "bad boy" form. (cue the MGTOW followers who say women prefer the bad boys...)

"That unit is defective. Its thinking is chaotic. Absorbing it unsettled me.€" - Nomad to Spock
"That unit is a woman" - Spock explaining women to Nomad - The Changeling.

That one is inexcusably offensive. Uhura has been proven competent many times, even told she's the only one who can put things to rights (e.g. Spock to Uhura in "Who Mourns for Adonis", if memory serves, it's been a while but it involved her repairing of the communications equipment... and if Spock couldn't do that since he was otherwise the fix-all-everything-all, that's a big compliment. And needed staff redundancy, Scotty was on the landing party.)

""it's better to be dead than to live alone in the body of a woman." - Janice Lester, Turnabout Intruder.

All the writer needed to do was address Janice's psychiatric illness or radiation poisoning instead of "body of a woman" and the whole issue would have been dealt with before it began. But late season 3 often didn't even try to be progressive. Neither did Nomad.
 
The Enemy Within, full stop.

"The captain", or at least a man Yeoman Rand has every reason to believe is her captain, tries to rape her, and then he's part of the trio of male officers who sit her down and interrogate her. And her primary concern? Not getting the captain in trouble. Skin crawling!

And isn't this the same episode where two crewmen in the hallway openly leer after here and say something like "could you imagine having that as your personal yeoman?" Geez, combine that with Spock's leering at Rand and suggesting that evil Kirk had "interesting qualities" and it might very well be the most sexist episode ever.
 
"Captain I'm, frightened," says the experienced head of deparment, (female) Lieutenant to her (male) commanding officer (the Captain) in a military organisation.

Thankfully, that was an isolated lapse on the show's part and not typical of how Uhura was generally portrayed. Usually, she's just as cool and professional in a crisis as any other crew member.

But, yeah,when it came to sex roles, TOS meant well, but, in practice, it was often one step forward, one step backwards. You have female officers and scientists and ambassadors, but it's also very much a product of its time, so some casual sexism slips in, as when in "Who Mourns with Adonais," it's casually remarked that the female officer will quit Starfleet when she finds the right guy and settles down. I'm sure nobody gave that line much thought back in the 1960s, but it stands out like a sore thumb now.
 
The end of "The Outcast", where the "gay" character is reprogrammed by the government and the Enterprise crew just sort of frown and walk away because it's okay to let that kind of thing keep happening as long as it's not in your backyard, is quite infuriating to watch as an adult.
 
The end of "The Outcast", where the "gay" character is reprogrammed by the government and the Enterprise crew just sort of frown and walk away because it's okay to let that kind of thing keep happening as long as it's not in your backyard, is quite infuriating to watch as an adult.

I think the point of those kind of episodes though, is that it is the federations philosophy that we are not in position to apply our values or morals to the society of others.

I actually think Star Trek does a decent job every now and then of portraying just how difficult that particular ideal can be to uphold. It's supposed to be "infuriating."
 
I think the point of those kind of episodes though, is that it is the federations philosophy that we are not in position to apply our values or morals to the society of others.

I actually think Star Trek does a decent job every now and then of portraying just how difficult that particular ideal can be to uphold. It's supposed to be "infuriating."
To me, it's Star Trek being ultra-conservative and saying "it's okay to say this horrible atrocity occurring isn't your problem and move on"
 
To me, it's Star Trek being ultra-conservative and saying "it's okay to say this horrible atrocity occurring isn't your problem and move on"
I agree with Vger23 on this one. Riker clearly wishes he could do something but is forbidden by regulations. He's not like "oh well", he's like "damn it!" And it was meant to be an allegorical warning for our society anyway.
 
I agree with Vger23 on this one. Riker clearly wishes he could do something but is forbidden by regulations. He's not like "oh well", he's like "damn it!" And it was meant to be an allegorical warning for our society anyway.
This is the part where people with convictions would ignore said regulations and do what needed to be done.

Like Kirk does all the time.
 
The end of "The Outcast", where the "gay" character is reprogrammed by the government and the Enterprise crew just sort of frown and walk away because it's okay to let that kind of thing keep happening as long as it's not in your backyard, is quite infuriating to watch as an adult.

The problem is that it wasn't a Federation world so their isn't much that the Federation can do to stop what they are doing. One exception would maybe to place sanctions on them and refuse to do business with them but then I wonder if Federation would still help them in a rescue mission like in this episode since lives were at matter and the fact that the Federation is willing to work with the Klingons and I am sure other races that have rules and laws they don't aprove op.

I wonder though what the episode would look like if these aliens had been members of the Federation. I don't think we have ever really seen the shows basically have the Federation try and police itself. Closest we got to that kind of idea is the colony that fell apart that Yar came from and the TNG crew willing to return the escaped genetic engineered solider from "The Hunted" and SIsko telling the Bajorans tat if they brought back a caste system it would hurt their chances of becoming members of the Federation.

As for Chocatay I though they actually went out of the way to not offend Native Americans. They never listed one specific Tribe he was from. He had that machines to bring about visions instead of drugs. He even lives on a alien planet and doesn't believe in Spirits or anything mystical. I think the TNG ep and TOS episodes that had Indians were actually worse in those regards. Pretty much anytime you have the stoic and wise Indian Chief you know you have made a mistake and gone into cliche territory.

Jason
 
The problem is that it wasn't a Federation world so their isn't much that the Federation can do to stop what they are doing. One exception would maybe to place sanctions on them and refuse to do business with them but then I wonder if Federation would still help them in a rescue mission like in this episode since lives were at matter and the fact that the Federation is willing to work with the Klingons and I am sure other races that have rules and laws they don't aprove op.

And sanctions is not something the Enterprise can decide right there on the spot. That'd be like a US Navy cruiser unilaterally deciding on sanctions for Saudi Arabia because of the way they legally and culturally treat women, LGBT, and other minorities.

It just doesn't work like that.
 
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