The "incident" Fuller mentions in TOS that Discovery will explore

[cultcross]

I don't know why anyone wouldn't think the issue was the Battle of Axanar, since, you know, CBS sued Alec Peters over his fan production about it. Yes, I know there were other circumstances that contributed to the suit. But still.

He was sued for making vast sums of money off stolen IP, and royally taking the piss while doing so (selling Trek branded coffee, for instance). At the time, December 2015, Discovery was still in the earliest pitch stage. There's no evidence to suggest a connection between the two.

 

[Campe]

He was sued for making vast sums of money off stolen IP, and royally taking the piss while doing so (selling Trek branded coffee, for instance). At the time, December 2015, Discovery was still in the earliest pitch stage. There's no evidence to suggest a connection between the two.

In fact, I think the whole Peters issue would make it less likely for the incident to involve the Battle of Axanar.

 

[Dukhat]

He was sued for making vast sums of money off stolen IP, and royally taking the piss while doing so (selling Trek branded coffee, for instance). At the time, December 2015, Discovery was still in the earliest pitch stage. There's no evidence to suggest a connection between the two.

Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but I thought CBS sued Peters and his Axanar production even before they announced that they were going to produce an official TV series. For all we know, Fuller heard about Axanar and decided to do his own take on it.

But of course that's all circumstantial, as we don't yet know what DSC is about.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Are we sure the place the Klingon hit is actually on Vulcan or is it just a Vulcan science outpost?

 

[Mr. Nova]

The more trailers I see the more I get this vibe - how does Starfleet reconcile it's peaceful mission and progressive ideals with a perceived/real military threat? I think this will be a major theme in season 1.

^^^ This! How do peaceful people deal with unavoidable war? Sounds like a theme to me.

 

[Tuskin38]

The original pitch under Fuller was an anthology, individual characters would have been abandoned after one season.

AFAIK the comments on the single point from TOS were after the anthology pitch was scrapped.

We know production started while he was working on it because of his BTS pictures.

 

[Kemaiku]

The more trailers I see the more I get this vibe - how does Starfleet reconcile it's peaceful mission and progressive ideals with a perceived/real military threat? I think this will be a major theme in season 1.

That's what I'm getting from the trailers too. That this is going to be a real test of everything Starfleet stands for.

 

[Mudd]

Well, if the "official" interpretation of canon is that Vulcan was never conquered, as per Spock's later references on the subject, then an in-universe explanation for that line in 'Conscience of the King' is that McCoy (being the colorful dude that he is) was not serious...

...However, I think the script writer who authored that line probably meant it to be literal when he wrote it, and it was meant to be literal when the actor spoke it.

The premise of Star Trek might well, in those early days, have led a writer to analogies with colonialism over the previous few centuries. With that as context I always assumed that McCoy was baiting Spock over Vulcan' s conquest by Earth.

 

[Noname Given]

I don't know why anyone wouldn't think the issue was the Battle of Axanar, since, you know, CBS sued Alec Peters over his fan production about it. Yes, I know there were other circumstances that contributed to the suit. But still.

Were that actually the case (the his use of 'Axanar' was the primary reason - do you REALLY think CBS would have let him keep the name 'Axanarproductions' (which he has - the only thing CBS had him remove was 'Star Trek' from the name.)

Alec got sued because of his donor store the 'Axanar Coffee' agreement he made with a coffee producer (yes, Alec 'licensed' 'Axanar Coffee' and was doing a brisk business <--- read PROFITING using unlicensed and copywritten material on the packaging.

Alec was sued because of any 'similar story' in his script; he was sued because he was directly using elements of Star Trek to make a profit - was profiting; an never obtained a license from CBS/Paramout to do so.

 

[Dukhat]

Yes, I know what he was sued for. That doesn't mean that DSC can't be about Axanar, no matter what some fan production continues to call itself.

 

[Beamer]

I've been rewatching TOS recently and I've been thinking about some of the lines between Kirk and Koloth about the disputed area and The Battle of Donantu V. Granted, that battle is stated to happen during 2245, so it's probably not related, but I figured I should bring it up.

I'm starting to think that maybe this line might not be related to either the Klingons or the Vulcans honestly. I like the idea of Tarsas V if just because of the connection to the curiously specific profession of the science officers on Discovery.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

And McCoy's line is hardly the only one that got thrown away, so to speak. Wasn't there a Q line in early TNG regarding the Klingons that also got tossed? Something like "that must be why you defeated them" (implying that the reason Worf was on the Enterprise was because the Federation conquered the Klingon Empire).

I don't remember specifically where Q said this or if he even did, but suppose he had. It likely isn't something to take literally. Q loves to troll people, and he knew exactly how to rile Worf up. Saying the Federation defeated the Klingons, instead of signed a peace treaty, would certainly do that.

 

[BillJ]

I don't remember specifically where Q said this...

"Hide and Q"

Q: Drink not with thine enemy. The rigid Klingon code. That explains something of why you defeated them.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I suspect the "incident" is merely the pre-TOS Klingon war, which wasn't even a thing in TOS.

 

[Tuskin38]

Well the event was mentioned in TOS

 

[N-121973]

The line about Vulcan being conquered was rather vague, and spouted by McCoy while taking a shot. Later on in "The Immunity Syndrome," Spock himself said, "Vulcan has not been conquered in its collective memory." But perhaps their collective memory is very selective and completely blocks out traumatic events.

Kor

Selective memory - you can say that again. Such as their deciding to selectively forget that active mindmelders were persecuted only a century & change earlier even though practically the entire population are touch-telepaths including Mr. Spock a human/Vulcan hybrid and mindmelding appears to be a major form of Vulcan ritual.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I suspect the event is revocation of Harry Mudd's "Master's License".

 

[nutshell]

I suspect the event is revokation of Harry Mudd's "Master's License".

Nailed it. In fact, in turns out Discovery is the title for season one only and that once it's revealed the story focuses on Mudd the show will be rebranded as Star Trek: Discover Mudd.

 

[Cinema Geekly]

It seems much more likely that this aspect of the shows story was dropped when Fuller left. I'm sure someday he will divulge what it was though.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I suspect the event is revokation of Harry Mudd's "Master's License".

That would be amusing.