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Time Travel In Discovery?
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Visuals are being updated but discovery is in prime timeline.
The fact that they could have new aliens on VOY had nothing to do with being in the Delta Quandrant. TOS and TNG took place in the same quadrant, and they STILL were able to have different unknown aliens and unknown phenomena almost every week (or at least more often than not).
Even TOS had only three Romulan episodes and only six Klingon episodes (seven if you count "Savage Curtain', which included a representation of a Klingon).
Discovery does not need to be in a new quadrant or new time (say 25th century) to be able to tell new stories about new aliens and new phenomena -- they can just do it from the Alpha Quadrant in the 23rd century.
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If they do any kind of time travel shenanigans I hope they are more self-contained adventures rather than traveling to different parts of Treklore. I'd rather have episodes like TNG's Cause and Effect than Voyager's Flashback (granted that's not technically a time travel episode, but you get my drift)
One thing that I've been eager to see for decades (and worked into the RP games I used to run whenever I could) is relativistic time travel. That is ... because of high, normal space velocity or time spent close to a high-gravitation body, the ship and crew experience time-dilation that makes time pass faster for them compared to the rest of the galaxy. A recent Doctor Who episode and an episode of Stargate: SG1 are the only televised SF shows I've ever seen explore this.
TOS created a sweeping romantic experience with COTEOF, by having the heroes travel to a time three decades prior to the time in which the show was made.
Accordingly, STD's equivalent time travel masterpiece needs to have our heroes time travel to the wonderful and classic bygone years of the 1980s.
Kor
Accordingly, STD's equivalent time travel masterpiece needs to have our heroes time travel to the wonderful and classic bygone years of the 1980s.
Kor
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Agree. So does my past and future selves... I consulted them.
Nope because it used a funky trekno-babble 'tachyon core' to create the temporal bubble, The episode was a really bad take on the hard SF novel The Dragon's Egg written by Robert Forward in 1980. Forward was a physicist who was a friend of Larry Niven and the two hatched the basic idea for the story at a writing seminar. Niven was supposed to help write the novel, but wasn't available, so the pubisher held Forward's hand through several re-writes until the story was publishable. It's an amazing story and one of the best hard SF books out there. The sequel, Starquake, had less oversight than Forward's first book, and the flat, two-dimensional human characters demonstrate that Forward is a great ... physicist.
Though I disagree vehemently with a lot of other stuff you've said, I've got to agree with this sentiment here. There was a time I'd have paid big money to see a new episode of TNG, but that time is past. I'm not sure I ever want to see those actors in those roles again.
That said, I'm a sucker for a good time travel story, and if a good one-- I mean a really good one-- required the use of an existing character, I'd enjoy it.
Say what you want, but I loved that episode, one of the few really memorable, well-executed episodes.
I'm a fan of the episode as well but it seems to me that its not quite what Psion inferred in his post. Basically the Discovery should encounter a vessel travelling in normal space at .9C or thereabouts that has been in flight for centuries. I'd love to see that myself.
Trek has had some really good time travel stories. City on the Edge of Forever, Voyage Home, First Contact, Little Green Men, Cause and Effect, Trials and Tribbleations, All Good Things, and others. So I can't argue that Discovery couldn't do these well too - however, it needs to avoid temporal manipulations as a gimmick. Voyager got too close to this with the whole Braxton/timeships from the future stuff and going back to the 'reset the timeline of the whole universe to help Voyager' plot twice, and Enterprise embraced it as an excuse to mess with its own premise.
I doubt we will see much time travel early on, long running stories don't usually lend themselves to it, but I wouldn't rule it out later on.
I doubt we will see much time travel early on, long running stories don't usually lend themselves to it, but I wouldn't rule it out later on.
I would like to see a few time travel episodes, but think they should wait til season 2 or 3 to do it. They should focus on world building and establishing the characters this season and by then hopefully they'll have a time travel story or two percolating in their heads.
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