WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread

[M.A.C.O.]

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Oh, wow. I knew about Mark Miller's incestuous Hulk-She-Hulk in that garbage Old Man Logan comic, but I didn't know about Paul Jenkins trying that shit in the normal continuity. Looking up his work the few things I've read of his I thought were almost all trash except his Inhumans book (which I did like and even own the motion comic of), but I'll probably avoid him if he ever returns to mainstream comics.

Also, I just have to say screw Mark Millar, just as a general sentiment. He did one or two good things, but between Old Man Logan and his work in the Ultimate Universe the guy is just out of his mind.

Spoiler

There's something wrong with Mark Millar. Besides the gratuitous, in-your-face and sometimes gross out violence that makes it into his works (Wanted, Kingsman, Kick Ass, Old Man Logan, Civil War, Superman Red Son, Ultimates 1 and 2). Domestic violence, incest and sexual assault are recurring themes for him. The aforementioned examples I listed but also his series Nemesis. Where the main character not only rapes and impregnates his sister, but puts a bomb inside her too. So she can't abort the child. What he had Hank Pym do to Jan in the Ultimates book. His planned but rejected story where Wonder Woman was going to be raped for no reason, and he would set her out on a rampage.

And would you believe he claimed his kids needed therapy after watching Suicide Squad. Dude, seriously?

This panel is Millar all the way.

And people think Frank Miller is bad.

 

[kirk55555]

Spoiler

There's something wrong with Mark Millar. Besides the gratuitous, in-your-face and sometimes gross out violence that makes it into his works (Wanted, Kingsman, Kick Ass, Old Man Logan, Civil War, Superman Red Son, Ultimates 1 and 2). Domestic violence, incest and sexual assault are recurring themes for him. The aforementioned examples I listed but also his series Nemesis. Where the main character not only rapes and impregnates his sister, but puts a bomb inside her too. So she can't abort the child. What he had Hank Pym do to Jan in the Ultimates book. His planned but rejected story where Wonder Woman was going to be raped for no reason, and he would set her out on a rampage.

And would you believe he claimed his kids needed therapy after watching Suicide Squad. Dude, seriously?

This panel is Millar all the way.

And people think Frank Miller is bad.

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I never heard about his proposed Wonder Woman story

As for Suicide Squad, that's honestly a fairly tame PG-13 from a violence standpoint, mostly being over the top violence against monsters or bloodless gun shots. Compared to Millar's work it might as well be Teletubbies, so the fact that he actually said that his kids would need therapy makes me legitimately question his state of mind. Honestly, outside of the Civil War event (which I did like a lot but I'm sure he wasn't the sole creative person on the event) I mostly really dislike his stuff, for some very obvious reasons.

 

[Gaith]

The only important question relevant to your post is if you're going to update your Photobucket account. Can't see the pic. XD

My apologies!

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Cousin marriages... producing credits... mustaches... goddamnit, we're all overlooking the big, important question regarding this film:

Are we going to get follow-through and resolution
on Lex's experimental bullets or not?!​

 

[Mudd]

Photobucket sent me an extortionist's email, but I stopped using them years ago so my response, in total, was "Fuck you, assholes."

 

[Ovation]

In Ahnuld mode, of course.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Hugo - original comments name/pic removed for being tasteless

 

[dahj]

Some nice promo art:

 

[JD]

What the hell is Whedon getting a producing credit for? All he did was did some nip and tuck to the screenplay and finished the post-production. That's all. What the hell is Warner Bros. doing? I'm just so disgusted with all of this.

The man is spending several months working on the movie, including working on the dialogue, shooting extra footage, and I think doing at least some of the editing, I think he deserves at least some kind of credit.

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There's something wrong with Mark Millar. Besides the gratuitous, in-your-face and sometimes gross out violence that makes it into his works (Wanted, Kingsman, Kick Ass, Old Man Logan, Civil War, Superman Red Son, Ultimates 1 and 2). Domestic violence, incest and sexual assault are recurring themes for him. The aforementioned examples I listed but also his series Nemesis. Where the main character not only rapes and impregnates his sister, but puts a bomb inside her too. So she can't abort the child. What he had Hank Pym do to Jan in the Ultimates book. His planned but rejected story where Wonder Woman was going to be raped for no reason, and he would set her out on a rampage.

And would you believe he claimed his kids needed therapy after watching Suicide Squad. Dude, seriously?

This panel is Millar all the way.

And people think Frank Miller is bad.

What the fuck? Definitely sounds like the guy has some serious issues.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Some nice promo art:

great art. Is that your original work? Or some cool new official stuff?

 

[dahj]

great art. Is that your original work? Or some cool new official stuff?

Official stuff.
I can do stick figures. Barely.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Oh no! I hope they're not referring to the snappy one-liners from the MCU films that have becoming increasingly annoying to me.

What the hell is Whedon getting a producing credit for? All he did was did some nip and tuck to the screenplay and finished the post-production. That's all. What the hell is Warner Bros. doing? I'm just so disgusted with all of this.

Hugo - may the floof be with you. Always

 

[Dream]

Cyborg’s story being changed to be not as grimdark with the reshoots

In recent months, Warner Bros. made the emphatic decision to take notes from Wonder Woman and inject the DCEU with a brighter tone, starting with Justice League. One of these tone shifts will reportedly take place with Cyborg, or Victor Stone, played by Ray Fisher.

Joe Morton, who plays Victor Stone’s father Silas Stone, told IGN that Cyborg’s character was adjusted because the studio felt the film was “too dark”:

“I know that with Ray [Fisher], the young man who plays Victor, there were some adjustments that they made in terms of the tone of that character. I think what I heard was that there was a need from the studio to lighten up the film in a way, that the film felt too dark. I don’t know what that meant in terms of how it actually got translated in terms of the reshoots but that’s what I heard. That’s what I thought some of the reshoots were about.”

 

[Christopher]

Cyborg’s story being changed to be not as grimdark with the reshoots

Seems like a good idea, considering that general audiences are most likely to know the character from the Teen Titans shows.

 

[Gaith]

Cyborg’s story being changed to be not as grimdark with the reshoots

How many of your posts are now ̶s̶p̶a̶ copying and pasting links and quotes with zero comment? 60%? 70%?

Cyborg’s story being changed to be not as grimdark with the reshoots

Seems like a good idea, considering that general audiences are most likely to have no idea who the terminator-like character is, and be disinterested in yet more Skyderist grimdark substance-free bullshit from some guy they just met, particularly when they're already getting several perpetually grumpy characters in Bats, Alfred, the fish guy and Gordon.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Seems like a good idea, considering that general audiences are most likely to know the character from the Teen Titans shows.

So does that mean Ray Fisher's voice has now been dubbed by Khari Payton?

 

[Christopher]

Gaith, please do not quote my text and alter its content without my consent, especially under a heading implying it's still from me. Even as a joke, that is inappropriate. I consider it an act of vandalism, especially since I disagree with the attitude.

 

[Gaith]

^ Okay. So edited.

 

[dahj]

perpetually grumpy characters [...] the fish guy

The guy shouting woooooooooohoooo while surfing on a parademon through a building?
So grumpy. Much grimdark.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The reshoots eliminated a huge cliffhanger.

Spoiler: Original ending

The movie originally ended with Darkseid's arrival on Earth.

 

[DigificWriter]

I really doubt that these rumors regarding characters and tone that have come out about the JL reshoots have any validity to them whatsoever, given the fact that it's a complete fallacy that there's anything particularly "dark" about anything that's happened in the DCEU thus far.

I'm 'iffy' on the rumor about the ending being changed, because there's nothing really arguing either for or against it at this point.