Litverse & Star Trek '09
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I just hope this doesn't mean they start accelerating the timeline again. I was enjoying the slower pace between book to book. I feel like we missed so many things that could have happened in '82-84.
Seeing the fallout from Romulus' destruction and the loss of Spock has me more psyched for Treklit than I've been in a long time. I hope it's worth the wait!
I wonder who gets to be the writer that gets to tackle the Hobus incident and actually have it make sense. I will gladly see Countdown completely put to bed.
That seems logical....or we could do the exact opposite of that and let ourselves be disappointed later! That seems like something we'd do.
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Agreed. The rapid pace they burned threw those years was pointless, especially for character development.
They did say the books would continue, so I'm assuming that means they continue at Pocket and that there just needs to be some final legal matters addressed. I'm guessing they wouldn't have made such a big announcement if there was a chance it was going to fall threw.
I couldn't agree more. Years went by and everyone was still right where they had been beforehand. People were still hanging onto the same personal problems they had years before when in any realistic timeline they would have had personal experiences to help them move on. It was as if time literally stopped for them and they were brought out of stasis just for the few books they appear in.
I am wondering if the novelverse will follow the recent Encyclopedia's directive (and Simon Pegg's) that effects from Nero's incursion rippled backwards as well as forward through the timeline (thus although stuff like transwarp beaming, the Narada and Red Matter are things they have to include, there may not have been a Balthazar Edison, USS Franklin, icy Delta Vega or Necro Cloud in the Prime Universe), or if they'll stick by Orci and Kurtzman's intention that the timelines were one and the same up until 2233.04?
This is an absolure certainty, surely?
I hope we get a trilogie about the Hobus incident and the after effects, from different writers.
I am wondering if the novelverse will follow the recent Encyclopedia's directive (and Simon Pegg's) that effects from Nero's incursion rippled backwards as well as forward through the timeline (thus although stuff like transwarp beaming, the Narada and Red Matter are things they have to include, there may not have been a Balthazar Edison, USS Franklin, icy Delta Vega or Necro Cloud in the Prime Universe), or if they'll stick by Orci and Kurtzman's intention that the timelines were one and the same up until 2233.04?
I hope they stick to the Orci-Kurtzman paradigm. Because the appeal of exploring another timeline is their mirroring of ours. A random tangential universe doesn't hold that philosophical meat and is plain worldbuilding.
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I take the intent of the Okuda's note to be that events are essentially the same, but the retroactive time ripples might explain certain minor inconsistencies that are hard to resolve any other way. As the last paragraph in the above slide says, the two timelines are "largely parallel," not tangential. They aren't saying that the Kelvin or the Franklin never existed in Prime, just that the Prime versions might've been a bit different in cases where inconsistencies appear (for instance, maybe the Prime Kelvin wasn't quite as large).
I see your point and argued it passionately until recently, but with two entirely separate creative teams furthering the same era in Trek, I fear we'll end up an incomprehensible contradictory mess of backstory details if we stick with a 2233 divergence point.
Heck, one could say Discovery already is that with their insistence it's the same universe as The Original Series - but I'll save my thoughts there until the show's premiere. They might yet explain why a ship in 2256 has TNG-style atmospheric forcefields in the shuttlebay and elsewhere to seal hull breaches, when the 2267 USS Enterprise had to de-pressurise and re-pressurise her bay when ships landed and as late as 2285 had big isolation doors to cut off breached sections. We'll see.
Hasn't icy Delta Vega already been featured in one of the Typhon Pact novels, where it was explained to be in Vulcan's star system, thus helping somewhat to explain how Spock Prime could look into the sky and see Vulcan's destruction?
As far as brand new timelines to play in goes, the reboot films are the only instance in which, for the main characters (NuKirk etc) all you had to work with are the events of one movie - the non-show story TOS novels didn't start in earnest until after the series was over, correct?
The alt reality Academy books took place in a gap lasting a few years and stayed true to no meetings with Scotty or Kirk encountering Spock yet, and also showed Uhura and Spock's relationship developing. All stuff you could play with.
What I want to know is, will novels now drawing from the alt reality also feature/mention events from the IDW comics?
The alt reality Academy books took place in a gap lasting a few years and stayed true to no meetings with Scotty or Kirk encountering Spock yet, and also showed Uhura and Spock's relationship developing. All stuff you could play with.
What I want to know is, will novels now drawing from the alt reality also feature/mention events from the IDW comics?
Well, the first TOS novel was the young-adult Mission to Horatius, which came out in 1968 and was not very faithful to the show. There were also the Gold Key comics starting in 1967 and the UK comic strips beginning in 1969 (before the writers and artists had even seen the show!), which were wildly inaccurate early on.
I wouldn't bet on it. The novels, comics, and games have usually gone their own independent ways, with only occasional cross-referencing.
This is the first one where there wasn't even a handful of episodes to draw from - just a single film, then two, then 3. Not as many "what happened in between universe shattering events" details or as much time to add offhand mentions of one's childhood, past career/schooling, etc except those that introduced rebel Kirk and little Spock.
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