Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion

[KirkusOveractus]

Why? Many people go through multiple hairstyles in life.

I think because there was a flashback in a TNG episode that recounts when Picard was impaled as a cadet, I believe. He had at least some hair, and darker. Even in early episodes of TNG Picard had more hair than the completely bald Picard in the NEM photo.

It wouldn't have been a problem to add that bit of hair to Tom Hardy for the photo. Would have made things more believable and could have done a little more for the overall lazy attention to some details in NEM.

 

[fireproof78]

I would be cool with this if they actually threw in some direct exposition that the Federation is going through a rapid experimental phase. I'm hoping the "new way to fly" line is a hint of just that rather than being something limited to head-canon rationalizations.

Considering that the limits on physical models kept TOS to just one on-screen ship-design, CGI offers infinite possibilities. The jaded part of me wonders whether CBS is just looking to sell as many different model kits as possible.

I don't see selling models as a problem. I'm all for CBS making money to continue Star Trek.

I think because there was a flashback in a TNG episode that recounts when Picard was impaled as a cadet, I believe. He had at least some hair, and darker. Even in early episodes of TNG Picard had more hair than the completely bald Picard in the NEM photo.

It wouldn't have been a problem to add that bit of hair to Tom Hardy for the photo. Would have made things more believable and could have done a little more for the overall lazy attention to some details in NEM.

I always took it as his first year at the Academy and that he had shaved his head as part his new life.

 

[mos6507]

I think because there was a flashback in a TNG episode that recounts when Picard was impaled as a cadet, I believe. He had at least some hair, and darker. Even in early episodes of TNG Picard had more hair than the completely bald Picard in the NEM photo.

It wouldn't have been a problem to add that bit of hair to Tom Hardy for the photo. Would have made things more believable and could have done a little more for the overall lazy attention to some details in NEM.

The real reason Tom Hardly was bald is that a shaved head on a young man is sexy. Balding is not. I mean, did you want him sporting a comb-over or something?

 

[BillJ]

I think because there was a flashback in a TNG episode that recounts when Picard was impaled as a cadet, I believe. He had at least some hair, and darker. Even in early episodes of TNG Picard had more hair than the completely bald Picard in the NEM photo.

It wouldn't have been a problem to add that bit of hair to Tom Hardy for the photo. Would have made things more believable and could have done a little more for the overall lazy attention to some details in NEM.

He shaved his head or was the victim of some kind of hazing? I know on the ol' Canon meter, that doesn't even register a blip for me.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I always took it as his first year at the Academy and that he had shaved his head as part his new life.

I understand that, it's completely possible. To me, in the flashback, he's wearing a full Starfleet uniform, not a Cadet's uniform. He has hair in the flashback, so to me, he shouldn't be bald in the Academy photo he's looking at in NEM.

 

[fireproof78]

I understand that, it's completely possible. To me, in the flashback, he's wearing a full Starfleet uniform, not a Cadet's uniform. He has hair in the flashback, so to me, he shouldn't be bald in the Academy photo he's looking at in NEM.

It looked shaved to me so, I see your point, but my interpretation (possibly wrong, I'll grant) is that young Picard shaved is head in defiance of his dad when he joined Starfleet.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

It looked shaved to me so, I see your point, but my interpretation (possibly wrong, I'll grant) is that young Picard shaved is head in defiance of his dad when he joined Starfleet.

That's quite possible as well. Maybe shaved it when he got there, then let it grow back as he as there.

I understand that side of it, too.

 

[Tuskin38]

Given that they were still coming out of a war period with the Romulans

But that was 90 years ago by Discovery's point.

 

[fireproof78]

But that was 90 years ago by Discovery's point.

And? You have rebuilding efforts, perhaps new members of the Federation, as well as technological experimentation that would result in a fully built starship.

Plus, how many other conflicts did the Federation endure in that time?

tl:dr-I know it's 90 years, but such an expansion is not a simple process.

 

[Noname Given]

Given that they were still coming out of a war period with the Romulans, such an expansion of tech is not as unreasonable as it sounds on the face of it. You have four foundation races, each bringing their discoveries and applications, as well as new members injecting new concepts or technologies.

Um the Earth Romulan War ended 90 years earlier.

 

[fireproof78]

Um the Earth Romulan War ended 90 years earlier.

See my post above yours

 

[Jayson1]

Just a idea but what if that "New Way to Fly" plus the fancy new special effects can be linked to this ship using or trying to use Transwarp technology? I think it was stated or maybe it's just something I imagined is that this tech had been tested many times before it became the main selling point of the "Exceslior." from the 3rd TOS movie.

Jason

 

[BillJ]

Just a idea but what if that "New Way to Fly" plus the fancy new special effects can be linked to this ship using or trying to use Transwarp technology? I think it was stated or maybe it's just something I imagined is that this tech had been tested many times before it became the main selling point of the "Exceslior." from the 3rd TOS movie.

The only thing I ever heard (and no it never appeared on screen, so not canon), was that Transwarp drive was based on the dimensional rift experienced by the Enterprise in "The Tholian Web".

It might be from Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, I'm not sure.

 

[Longinus]

Oh no, I hope it has nothing to do with transwarp! In a setting where the ships already go incomprehensibly fast going even more incomprehensibly fast is just not exiting. And I definitely don't want to see any super technology that was conveniently forgotten by TNG. I always hated the fanon that Excelsior was some sort of failure, I prefer the interpretations that it's warp drive was basically what they ended up using in TNG, and that's somehow related to the warp scale recalibration.

 

[Jayson1]

The only thing I ever heard (and no it never appeared on screen, so not canon), was that Transwarp drive was based on the dimensional rift experienced by the Enterprise in "The Tholian Web".

It might be from Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, I'm not sure.

To be honest i'm not even sure what Transwarp drive is supose to do. I think on "Voyager" it would allow them to get back the AQ but that seems kind of advanced for something created in the TOS era. Also would it have worked on the Excelsior if Scotty hadn't tinkered with the engines and if that was all that went wrong you would think they could fix it back up, unless Scotty somehow was the only person involved in the creation of that engine.

Jason

 

[captainkirk]

Transwarp just seems to be a generic term that means a drive system that goes faster than typical warp engines without distorting space.

 

[Mr. Nova]

Just a idea but what if that "New Way to Fly" plus the fancy new special effects can be linked to this ship using or trying to use Transwarp technology? I think it was stated or maybe it's just something I imagined is that this tech had been tested many times before it became the main selling point of the "Exceslior." from the 3rd TOS movie.

Jason

The "new way to fly", coupled with the idea of using a fungus to power the drive reminds me of the Voyager episode, "Equinox", where the Equinox crew used the residue of a living creature to power their warp drive to return to the AQ faster.

 

[Jayson1]

The "new way to fly", coupled with the idea of using a fungus to power the drive reminds me of the Voyager episode, "Equinox", where the Equinox crew used the residue of a living creature to power their warp drive to return to the AQ faster.

I'm still not convinced that fungus isn't space weed. If they use it to power the engines I can already see the scene were people walk into main engineering and their is cloudy smoke all over the room and all the engineers are just lying around, eating dorrito's and talking about the meaning of life. Something starts to go wrong with the engine and to fix it someone pulls out a copy of "High Times" to figure how to solve the problem.

Jason

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Transwarp just seems to be a generic term that means a drive system that goes faster than typical warp engines without distorting space.

Agreed. You have the Federation transwarp testbed, the Excelsior, which apparently failed. Either that or this is the tech that's responsible for the change to the warp scale.

Then you have Borg transwarp conduits, using a series of constructed devices to tunnel through, what, subspace? Hyperspace?

Then other similar techs like slipstream, soliton waves, etc.

 

[tenmei]

Trying to create a GIF or two of Captain Lorca and failing