I'm tempted to rant about how the writers of "Dear Doctor" should be imprisoned for introducing dangerous and misleading fake science and abhorrent ethics into canon.
Does canon really matter?
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Pablo is literally getting paid to keep the canon in check.
WTF have I gone to school for?
Lots of people, just look at the literture sub forum. But we know they're not canon.
ENT fit in perfectly. In an alternate reality created by the Borg temporal incursion in First Contact.
Which is also the reality from which the Kelvin Universe branched out.
Nope
Discovery is canon as distinct from unlicenced.
Does consistency with previous works in the same canon matter? The canons of certain mythologies and ancient religions have arguably thrived by having pliable continuity and allowing each storyteller to tweak details as they saw fit. As regards Discovery, I think the question will prove to be more or less mute - it looks like it'll be more faithful to TOS than most of the other incarnations have been, visuals aside. But if the makers feel the need to, say, relocate Vulcan by a few hundred parsecs then that's fine by me if it makes for a better Star Trek show.
Does consistency with previous works in the same canon matter? The canons of certain mythologies and ancient religions have arguably thrived by having pliable continuity and allowing each storyteller to tweak details as they saw fit. As regards Discovery, I think the question will prove to be more or less mute - it looks like it'll be more faithful to TOS than most of the other incarnations have been, visuals aside. But if the makers feel the need to, say, relocate Vulcan by a few hundred parsecs then that's fine by me if it makes for a better Star Trek show.
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Based on various comments from producers/writers. It will respect the established canon, so they probably won't have drastic things like earths moon being destroyed or something like changing who the current captain of the enterprise is.
Even the new Klingons still have Kahless and the great houses.
But will it be Kronos or Qo'noS?
Even the new Klingons still have Kahless and the great houses.
But will it be Kronos or Qo'noS?
Nobody who thinks canon is badge of quality, that's for sure.
Vulcans know what the Romulans look like, meaning the Federation knows what the Romulans look like. Balance of Terror is obsolete.
A classic, and one of my favorite Trek episodes ever, but in terms of canon and continuity, obsolete.
What Vulcans know what Romulans look like?
Also I edited my post with a different example
Of course they know.
There is nothing to imply they knew.
The schism was centuries ago, they had not had (known) contact
Canon is important if you want to feel like the show is somehow connected to the other shows. It has no bearing on whether or not the show will be good but if it is their it can enhance the experience by making the universe feel more like a real place with history and detail. If not the experience can also be enhanced by seeing old idea's with a new twist.
Either option is okay. I do think though that canon is in the eye of the beholder. If people feel it fits they will make it fit in their head. If not they will see it as a remake or reboot. What the shows creators think is irrelevant because they have no control over people's opinions.
Jason
Kelvin Spock said "Vulcans and Romulans share common ancestry" like it was common knowledge. Doesn't necessarily prove anything, but the idea that no one knows about their kinship comes from the episode which establishes that the Earth-Romulan war was fought with primitive atomic weapons and in primitive space vessels incapable of ship-to-ship visual communication.
ENTERPRISE shits all over this, and the novels try to reaffirm it in a laughably contrived manner.
Kelvin timeline, not prime.
Plus that was after Nero revealed himself attacked the Kelvin.
It is canon that very little people know of the connection.
It's important to me.
Although in my old age I've come to few Trek canon and continuity as being a largely workable tapestry with some gaping holes that can't be rationalised away.
I would submit that canon and continuity are important to CBS too. I say that because 'world building' is all the rage these days - nobody just makes A Genre Movie. A Genre Movie is made to be sequelised and spun off into a Netflix series, all going well. I can't see why the owners of one of the biggest fictional worlds in the history of entertainment media would suddenly be disinterested in maintaining it.
But then, I know nothing of the media industry and am only speculating. Perhaps also inserting my own biases and preferences into that speculation as well...something that seems to be the trend on this particular forum
Although in my old age I've come to few Trek canon and continuity as being a largely workable tapestry with some gaping holes that can't be rationalised away.
I would submit that canon and continuity are important to CBS too. I say that because 'world building' is all the rage these days - nobody just makes A Genre Movie. A Genre Movie is made to be sequelised and spun off into a Netflix series, all going well. I can't see why the owners of one of the biggest fictional worlds in the history of entertainment media would suddenly be disinterested in maintaining it.
But then, I know nothing of the media industry and am only speculating. Perhaps also inserting my own biases and preferences into that speculation as well...something that seems to be the trend on this particular forum
Saavik came this close to being confirmed as half Romulan on screen, and she is generally accepted as such. Her age would have made Balance of Terror obsolete. Although the line confirming this was cut, it wasn't because of the 'canon violation'.
See, this is the immaterial part.
I'm sure higher ups and former members of the vulcan's intelligence/security agencies knew, but the average citizen probably didn't.
They probably would have wanted to keep their relationship secret anyways.
If one was to be all technical there is a definition of canon and canonical and as entertaining as other variants are if they are not recognized then they are not popularized as such.
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