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‘Wonder Woman’: Female and Older Moviegoers Powered Box Office, New Study Shows
“‘Wonder Woman’s’ audience evolved in a similar manner as most blockbusters but with some trends notably magnified,” noted Matthew Liebmann, Movio’s senior VP for the Americas. “While the female and 50+ segments of the audience generally grow over the course of the run, ‘Wonder Woman’s’ female audience nearly reached parity with the male audience by the third week.”

He noted that strong reviews and word-of mouth drove its impressive performance after opening weekend. Liebmann told Variety that it’s unprecedented for a superhero tentpole movie to reach male-female parity at any point of its run — due to propensity of male moviegoers to support those titles. The average superhero movie draws a 62% male audience.

“Even ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens,’ which had a strong female lead with Daisy Ridley, never got closer than 56-44 male,” Liebman said.

He noted that the audience share for moviegoers over 50 increased from 12% to 22% over the first weeks — 20% higher than other tentpoles. And 22% of “Wonder Woman” viewers are infrequent moviegoers (who see one to four films a year), compared to a 16% average for that group.

Movio’s data also showed that average number of admissions per purchase for “Wonder Woman” was well above average.

“That says to me that there was an increase in parents taking their children to see the film,” Liebmann added. “It wasn’t just the female audience that made this film a hit.”
Wonder Woman having a large female audience was expected, but it has also been getting older audiences and more of those people that usually don't go see movies in theaters to see it. Pretty cool!:D
 
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A good friend of mine, who wouldn't normally enter a cinema showing a "comic book movie", told me yesterday he's planning to see it. I nearly fell out of my chair when he told me.
 
Wonder Woman having a large female audience was expected, but it has also been getting older audiences and more of those people that usually don't go see movies in theaters to see it. Pretty cool!:D

10 year old girls that were watching and enjoying Linda Carter are 50 now. So that makes sense to me that it hit those nostalgic buttons as well.
 
Wonder Woman passed another couple of Box Office milestones this weekend.

It passed Deadpool's domestic BO to become the second highest grossing origin story.
It passed Suicide Squad's global BO result.
It started outpacing Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and it looks like it will end up as the highest grossing movie of the summer in the US. :eek: :techman:
 
There's a story going around that the sequel might be set in the '80s,where Diana will deal with the late Cold War era Soviet Union and have Chris Pine back.
That could be fun. I know some people want to see WWII do WWII, but I wouldn't mind seeing them do something that isn't related to a (hot) war. I could see a Cold War poltical thriller, or espionage story be fun.

That would definitely be interesting. Chris Pine returning would be weird, though. I don't really know if they could use him as Steve trevor's ancestor without it being too ridiculous, and having him as a vision is too much like that stupid Johnathon Kent vision/Ghost from BvS. There also isn't much they could flashback to. Still, Pine did a great job in the first movie and I'd be fine with him coming back, even if it ends up being a bit ridiculous.
 
That would definitely be interesting. Chris Pine returning would be weird, though. I don't really know if they could use him as Steve trevor's ancestor without it being too ridiculous, and having him as a vision is too much like that stupid Johnathon Kent vision/Ghost from BvS. There also isn't much they could flashback to. Still, Pine did a great job in the first movie and I'd be fine with him coming back, even if it ends up being a bit ridiculous.
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IDK I like that level of 'ridiculousness mhyself. Why not mirror some of what they did for the campy TV series later seasons? ;)
 
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IDK I like that level of 'ridiculousness mhyself. Why not mirror some of what they did for the campy TV series later seasons? ;)

Because the Wonder Woman TV show sucked and should never be copied. Seriously, the show had less WW then Incredible Hulk had Hulk, but at least Hulk got to show his strength sometimes. WW was basically a show about a random guy of the week being the hero, except for the 45 seconds of screen time that Diana Prince would spin around and the either lightly shove something or jump off or on something to save the day.

Basically, while I love goofy stuff in my movies if it fits, the WW TV show should be an example of what not to do in the movies.
 
Because the Wonder Woman TV show sucked and should never be copied. Seriously, the show had less WW then Incredible Hulk had Hulk, but at least Hulk got to show his strength sometimes. WW was basically a show about a random guy of the week being the hero, except for the 45 seconds of screen time that Diana Prince would spin around and the either lightly shove something or jump off or on something to save the day.

Basically, while I love goofy stuff in my movies if it fits, the WW TV show should be an example of what not to do in the movies.
Well, this was the template of the seasons set in the modern time. Ww2 episodes where a little different.
 
Well, this was the template of the seasons set in the modern time. Ww2 episodes where a little different.

Well, fair enough (I've never seen the WW2 season). but, then again, I seriously doubt that the first season was a big step up from the later two. I mean, they wouldn't have the stupid computer thing, but I don't see WW getting to do anything more per episode then she did in the later seasons, because the people in charge of that show were seemingly determined to make sure the female hero was very much just a supporting role to the guys and I doubt that attitude just suddenly appeared in Season 2. Plus they were obviously working with much less money and much less inventive writers/producers then, say, Batman had. So its not like the action would be better even if they had more of it.

Bottom line, in my opinion the WW show is easily one of the worst live action superhero shows, and outside of maybe giving Lynda Carter a Stan Lee style cameo the movies should take nothing from it.
 
the people in charge of that show were seemingly determined to make sure the female hero was very much just a supporting role to the guys
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you acknowledge at some point that you had only seen a handful of episodes? If so, I think you just had bad luck on those draws. While I appreciate your indignation on Diana's behalf, I can only think of a few shows where guys played a significant action role at all -- there was one with Ron "Tarzan" Ely, and another toward the end of the series with a guy who had unwillingly gained superpowers who basically teamed up with WW. But for the most part, Wonder Woman definitely drove the stories and was unmistakably the show's main character and heroic presence. There are plenty of criticisms one could legitimately level at the show, but I don't think Diana being overshadowed by male characters is one of them.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you acknowledge at some point that you had only seen a handful of episodes? If so, I think you just had bad luck on those draws. While I appreciate your indignation on Diana's behalf, I can only think of a few shows where guys played a significant action role at all -- there was one with Ron "Tarzan" Ely, and another toward the end of the series with a guy who had unwillingly gained superpowers who basically teamed up with WW. But for the most part, Wonder Woman definitely drove the stories and was unmistakably the show's main character and heroic presence. There are plenty of criticisms one could legitimately level at the show, but I don't think Diana being overshadowed by male characters is one of them.

I've watched a good chunk of Season 3 (I got the DVD for cheap years ago). I can think of maybe one episode where Diana was the lead. One, and at this point (I'll sometimes pop the DVD in to watch an episode if I'm bored every few months) I think I'm at least 13 episodes into this season. For comparison, Batman had no episodes where he wasn't the main character. Even if he got help, it was still his show. Wonder Woman is at only 1 episode out of 12-13 where she's been anything except a very quick rescue or help to the guy of the week. So, yeah, I'd say its a fairly legitimate criticism, and a problem I doubt started in Season 3.

In the end though, arguing over a crap 70s show seems like a waste of time. It would just be a normally bad show like Incredible Hulk if it wasn't kind of horrifically (but hilariously in a morbid way) actively against a woman (the title hero) being the actual hero of her own show. I could also go into Diana Prince being mostly useless in all the episodes and Wonder Woman being the single least impressive live action hero of the era when it comes to action (and I'm including stuff like the 70s Reb Brown Captain America movies), but that's really secondary to its big problem.

But, again, it all doesn't really matter. I seriously doubt anything from that embarrassment of a show, outside of a possibly easter egg/reference and maybe a Lynda Carter cameo, will be showing up in the films.
 
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Yeah, I agree, Iron Man 2 was the worst one in the series for me. YMMV.


For me, it was Iron Man 3. The only thing good about Iron Man was (and I can't believe I'm saying this) was RDJ's performance. Otherwise, I thought it was your typical hero origin flick.


I've watched a good chunk of Season 3 (I got the DVD for cheap years ago). I can think of maybe one episode where Diana was the lead.

I have different memories.

There's a story going around that the sequel might be set in the '80s,where Diana will deal with the late Cold War era Soviet Union and have Chris Pine back.

I hope that is a false rumor, because I think it is a bad idea. It would go against what Diana told Bruce in "Batman v. Superman". I hope WB will set the movie in the present.
 
The most impressive thing about Wonder Woman is that it took 76 years before she finally got her first live action movie.

We should thanking Marvel for making so many successful movies that WB was forced go ahead with their DCEU in order to compete.

I doubt we would have ever gotten solo movies for Wonder Woman or Aquaman if it wasn't for the Avengers.
 
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