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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

Hulk: “The First: Part 1”: I’d never realized before how much this one is a tribute to Universal’s Frankenstein and horror films in general. Doctor Clive and Dell Frye are named after Colin Clive and Dwight Frye, who played Henry Frankenstein and his assistant in Frankenstein and The Bride of Frankenstein. The town, Vissaria, is named after the setting of Ghost of Frankenstein and Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (also used as a setting in House of Frankenstein, though retconned to no longer be the location of the previous two films). Clive’s equipment is meant to have a vaguely Frankenstein-movie look to it. Elizabeth Collins, of course, is a nod to the Dark Shadows horror soap opera, and IMDb says that the opening scene is a Rocky Horror Picture Show homage.

For one of the series’s biggest stories, “The First” is pretty slow getting started, due to the padded pacing of a 2-parter. But the reaction of the frightened, suspicious townsfolk is kind of evocative of the later Frankenstein movies, although it’s pretty annoying otherwise. David’s basically like Talbot in Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man here -- one monster stepping into another monster’s sequel. Although we don’t get to see the monster until the end of the first part. This both is and isn’t a format-breaker, since we get the obligatory two metamorphoses, but only one of them is David’s. Maybe that’s why David’s Hulk-out is extended, to give Ferrigno more screen time. He does go a surprisingly long time before changing back.

Frye’s transformation is significant in another way: It’s the first time David has actually seen a metamorphosis happen. Okay, the pilot did indicate that he was partially aware of seeing his reflection in the water as he changed back after his first-ever metamorphosis. But this is the first time he’s seen the whole process.

By the way, when David got off the bus at the start, I recognized the up-thrusting tree branch in the foreground from the last time we saw him get off a bus -- I think it was in “Homecoming.” Either they used the same backlot location as the bus stop, or it’s an actual reuse of the same footage, I’m not sure which.
 
Hulk: “The First: Part 1”: I’d never realized before how much this one is a tribute to Universal’s Frankenstein and horror films in general. Doctor Clive and Dell Frye are named after Colin Clive and Dwight Frye, who played Henry Frankenstein and his assistant in Frankenstein and The Bride of Frankenstein. The town, Vissaria, is named after the setting of Ghost of Frankenstein and Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (also used as a setting in House of Frankenstein, though retconned to no longer be the location of the previous two films). Clive’s equipment is meant to have a vaguely Frankenstein-movie look to it. Elizabeth Collins, of course, is a nod to the Dark Shadows horror soap opera, and IMDb says that the opening scene is a Rocky Horror Picture Show homage.
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Hmm. Is this the one on tomorrow night? Sounds right up my alley.
 
Nope, MeTV stopped running it. Should be coming around on H&I in a few months.

Oh, well. I'll have to keep an eye out for this episode the next time TIH shows up on a channel I get.

I must say, thought, that, as a title, "The First" doesn't exactly scream Universal Frankenstein homage. They should have called it "House of Mad Science" or "Gods and Monsters" or something. :)
 
I must say, thought, that, as a title, "The First" doesn't exactly scream Universal Frankenstein homage. They should have called it "House of Mad Science" or "Gods and Monsters" or something. :)

The real irony of the title is that part 2 of "The First" was actually the last episode produced, although there were a dozen episodes aired after it (5 to close out season 4 and then an abbreviated season 5 made up of leftovers).
 
Well................
Not bad bad.

Some might say the same about an artist like, say, Smokey. Then someone else might respond that said artist had set a high bar with his previous work. "I Can't Stand It" is pretty bland, underwhleming, and forgettable fare from an artist whose previous body of work includes "Sunshine of Your Love," "White Room," and "Layla."
Fair enough. :rommie: I actually find "I Can't Stand It" kind of catchy.

I must say, thought, that, as a title, "The First" doesn't exactly scream Universal Frankenstein homage. They should have called it "House of Mad Science" or "Gods and Monsters" or something. :)
Plus which, didn't they do an episode where they found evidence of Hulks in Paleolithic cave paintings? Or am I thinking of something else?
 
Am I mistaken, or is this the "scientific instrument that malfunctions to become a death ray" prop that we've seen twice before?

Season one's "Earthquakes Happen" featured a cylindrical device that ended up turning into an accidental weapon, but it was not the one used in this episode.

The second time the show has used that name...though this time, for a character who lives in a small town where strange, horrific, things happen because one of its residents is secretly a monster, with other residents including a sheriff and a troublemaker named Willie....

(Now I'm picturing John Karlen trying to intimidate Banner to leave town--"You bettah get outta heah! Right now!!!" :lol: )

Leave Karlen's New York accent out of this! ;)

Dana Elcar couldn't have done it better...though it's too bad they didn't cast him, he was active at the time.

That would have pushed the fantasy reference meter into the red zone. Besides, Elcar already guest starred as corrupt Sheriff Harris in "Escape from Los Santos" (season two), so there's that....

Knowing what we know, it's a bit surprising that Frye isn't more afraid of the Hulk, given that his own creature was a killer.

Frye's anger and lust for revenge (the negative, inherent personality traits referenced in Clive's notes) made his own Hulk a killer, and he is aware of that, so he would not assume the Banner Hulk is cut from the same cloth.

I'm fuzzy now as to exactly what was shown in the clippings, but was there specifically anything about Banner having been allegedly killed by the creature, like the Register headline from the pilot? I was under the impression that Frye specifically had guessed who David was...which would make him one of the people on that uncompiled list who know Banner by reputation.

We do not see all clippings, so there's no way to tell. I would assume the Register's first headline ("Hulk Kills Two") probably slipped by Frye, since the shock and mystique around this new Bigfoot had not yet taken hold of the public's attention.

If he was Clive's assistant, I have to wonder why he couldn't have done this himself before David came along.

Frye did not fully understand which radiation elements were harnessed, or how much. He was more test subject (the only way Clive refers to him) than full-on assistant.

And here I make what could be a controversial call. Both parts of this installment maintain the show's two-HO formula while playing with it by swapping creatures. I'm counting Frye's on-schedule metamorphoses in the averages. -04:57.

That works.

We're cheated of a confrontation between creatures right there...David's transformed for less. Too bad Frye's creature didn't throw him into a box of broken glass or a cactus plant....

Well, any movie or two part TV episode saves the big fight for the final act. How would The Avengers movie or The Empire Strikes Back played out if the major confrontations happened in the first hour?

And we get a particularly unusual LM...one of somebody else's creature.

Yes, and ending on David watching with no clue how to stop it was a solid end to part one. One can only imagine his fear of a second Hulk story getting out to the McGees of the world...

There's also a really nice touch when Frye is transforming into his creature...David is transfixed, fascinated to witness with his own eyes what he's been going through for so long. One sees a hint of the unrestrained scientific curiosity that got him into his situation....

I noticed that, too--David sort of found the sight unbelievable, since he assumed he had been the only scientist ever making the connection between gamma radiation and strength enhancement. That, and the only other creature close to his own lived in some prehistoric period.

Also, note how David nods in agreement when a Frye speaks of how the transformations improved his health (like the many examples of David's recuperative powers post Hulk-out).


An interesting list of homages that I didn't know about...though I always did feel that the overall setting and situation was evocative of classic horror films, including the fact that the previous creature incidents had occurred in the 1950s.

More than just working on the Universal lot, Johnson and company always had respect for the classic stuff, and aside from other well known influences, probably saw the plight of Larry Talbot in Banner from the start.
 
Land of the Giants: “Pay the Piper”: Never fear, Smith is here! And the bar of weirdness gets raised once again, as Lost in Space’s Jonathan Harris guest stars as the actual, literal Pied Piper of Hamelin -- here interpreted as an alien from the dawn of time who travels from planet to planet using his pest-control racket to extort people out of their children, for nebulous reasons. So basically this is doing for the Pied Piper what Star Trek’s “Wolf in the Fold” did for Jack the Ripper. And as silly as it sounds, it’s actually kind of chilling, what with the child-abduction angle and Harris’s performance, which fortunately stays closer to the malevolent, charmingly sinister side of his acting range than the goofy, histrionic side.

The episode is most effective in the first half when the Little People help a giant senator, whom the Piper manipulated into a “deal” for the capture of the LP and who then reneges on paying him, prevent the Piper from taking his young son Timmy. It gets a bit more problematical later on when Fitzhugh attempts to deliver the boy to the Piper in exchange for getting back to Earth. For all the Piper’s promises that he’s taking the boy someplace happy, it’s taking Fitzhugh to an unexpectedly dark place to show him willingly cooperating in a child abduction -- especially since he knows the Piper is a fellow con artist and his pledge of always keeping his word is true in only the most technical sense, with a catch always hidden beneath the words. But Fitz does come through in the end when the Piper challenges him to a winner-take-all shell game.

Betty is back again, but it seems she was only available for part of the shooting schedule, since she’s missing from all the Spindrift exterior scenes -- which is most obvious when we cut from an interior shot where she and four others run to the exit in response to a noise outside to an exterior shot where only the other four arrive at the exit. Granted, it’s physically possible that Betty could’ve just stopped before coming into view, but there’s no particular reason why she would have.
 
That's pretty cool. Imagine having the Hulk come to your aid. :mallory:

It might also serve as the inspiration for a new Marvel comic: The Deputized Hulk. :rommie:
 
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The Incredible Hulk
"The First: Part II"
Originally aired March 13, 1981
MeTV said:
Discovering the legend of another Hulk-like creature, David investigates in hopes of unlocking a cure for his condition.
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Events in the news the week that the episode aired:
March 11 – Chilean military dictator Augusto Pinochet is sworn in as President of Chile for another 8-year term.


New on the charts that week:

"Limelight," Rush
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(#55 US; #4 Rock)

"Time Out of Mind," Steely Dan
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(#22 US; #13 AC; #13 Rock)

"Her Town Too," James Taylor & J.D. Souther
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(#11 US; #5 AC; #21 Rock)

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"Limelight," Rush
Yup, I admit it, I like Rush. And this has a strong nostalgic sound for me these days.

"Time Out of Mind," Steely Dan
I like Steely Dan, but I kind of forgot about this one. I'm recognizing it as I listen to it, though.

"Her Town Too," James Taylor & J.D. Souther
I don't like James Taylor at all, though. Except for "Mexico."
 
New on the charts that week:

"Limelight," Rush

Bury it, before it tries to get some to listen to it again.

"Time Out of Mind," Steely Dan

The act's decline was shocking, with songs of this kind serving as ample proof.


"Her Town Too," James Taylor & J.D. Souther

Taylor's last quality song. Not a surprise, as J.D. Souther--was a well known hit maker, writing many of the Eagles' (among many acts) greatest tracks.

Yup, I admit it, I like Rush. And this has a strong nostalgic sound for me these days.

I don't like James Taylor at all, though. Except for "Mexico."

Back to the airlock with you!
 
Think I'm more in RJD's corner with this week's selections. Rush isn't one of my favorite bands ever, but I generally like their stuff from this period. The James Taylor song is just "meh". I think we can all agree that the Steely Dan song is at least forgettable.
 
Back to the airlock with you!
I can hold my breath a looong time. :rommie:

Think I'm more in RJD's corner with this week's selections. Rush isn't one of my favorite bands ever, but I generally like their stuff from this period. The James Taylor song is just "meh".
Rush was always a controversial like-- and James Taylor was always a controversial dislike.

I think we can all agree that the Steely Dan song is at least forgettable.
Yeah, it sounds like them, but it's just weak. "Hey, Nineteen" was really their last good song.
 
Rush was always a controversial like-- and James Taylor was always a controversial dislike.
Controversial, how so?

Yeah, it sounds like them, but it's just weak.
Ah, so it wouldn't have been too snarky if I'd done this one, which I thought of after the fact?

I like Steely Dan, but I kind of forgot about this one. I'm recognizing it as I listen to it, though.
Because it sounds like all their other songs? :p
 
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