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What they needed was a market based solution!
(US) Do you support a $15 minimum wage?
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According to conservative theory it means slavery had to be a good thing because it kepth inflation down. In fact I think that kind of was one of the arguments for slavery back then. If you freed the slaves it would hurt the economy because you would have to pay people to pick cotton and whatnot.
Jason
Who could have guessed?
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No but it underestimates human nature, it takes regulation to step in when a system falls down due to the greed or inhumane treatment of one human to another. Do you really think any present day social reform would exist if society waited on employers to treat their employees, servants etc fairly? The state had to force 'wonderful' humans to stop discriminating based on melanin content, (they could not even use the same toilets!) if they can't even get that right what makes you think humans are going to want to hand over more money freely to other humans?
The poor we will always have with us, cos the rich have no intention of sharing...
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"The 2017 report features the happiness score averaged over the years 2014-2016. For that timespan, Norway is the overall happiest country in the world, even though oil prices have dropped. Close behind are Denmark, Iceland and Switzerland in a tight pack."
And what do these nations have in common? A large middle class, a smaller gap between rich and poor compared to other nations, and a healthy welfare system funded by distribution of wealth via taxes. And guess what IKEA are still making money!
The poorest nations on earth, mainly African countries are way down the bottom, and what do they have in common - absolute poverty, destitution, the idea of a minimum wage is laughable, its probably an ultra capitalists wet dream, except there is no one around to buy their precious consumer goods and make them rich.
When you have a system baaed on a race to the bottom to make money and a shrinking middle class and welfare state that is what you will end up with.
And what do these nations have in common? A large middle class, a smaller gap between rich and poor compared to other nations, and a healthy welfare system funded by distribution of wealth via taxes. And guess what IKEA are still making money!
The poorest nations on earth, mainly African countries are way down the bottom, and what do they have in common - absolute poverty, destitution, the idea of a minimum wage is laughable, its probably an ultra capitalists wet dream, except there is no one around to buy their precious consumer goods and make them rich.
When you have a system baaed on a race to the bottom to make money and a shrinking middle class and welfare state that is what you will end up with.
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And yet such folks had no intentions of selling their products for no money. How did those planters manage to make all that money to build those fancy white homes, by giving their cotton, sugar and tobacco away for free?
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Yeah, but the rich, white people will feel infinitely better about themselves, and isn't that why we're here?
That may be the way it seems to you, but I mostly blame the atheists.
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You think atheists are the cause of problems in the United States?
I'd like to hear that reasoning myself. But he'll probably claim he was using hyperbole.
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Yeah it was all those atheists who went to church on Sundays and then after lunch decided to hang the nig...rs for dessert...Those were the good ole days....
It must be down to the fact that religious people tend to be compassiante, generous (i.e paing a decent wage )and want the best for their fellow man. Whilst athesits are out for themselves and have no compassion etc..
When the truth is that ones religious beliefs or lack thereof doesn't make them any more compassionate etc..
When the truth is that ones religious beliefs or lack thereof doesn't make them any more compassionate etc..
Hypocrites and atheists actually have more in common than either like to think.
But I'm interested in what you think about the newly released study showing a loss of work hours for low-wage workers in Seattle, apparently due to increases in minimum wage.
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Nope, sorry. You're not in TNZ. You're not going to continue your pattern of throwing out random insulting drive-by trolling remarks and never backing them up with evidence.
Infraction for trolling. Comments to PM.
As for everyone else, when he makes out of left field trolling comments like that, don't bother asking for an explanation or expecting one to ever come. It won't, because there obviously is no explanation that would justify that statement. Just ignore it or report it. This is what he does on a regular basis.
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As for people loosing work hours in Seattle that is something that happens everywhere, nowdays. It's away of getting out of having to pay it's workers any benefits. We all know those work hours are still being filled by someone. It has happened to my mom and her co-workers and we live in Oklahoma. Not exactly a haven for liberalism.
Jason
Jason
I'm both, thank God.
I'm not sure I've seen any one argue that there wouldn't be some job losses. Should we never strive to do anything to improve peoples lives because there could be some pain involved as we implement new policies?
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