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WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread

I didn't mention Betty Kane/Bat-Girl because I was answering Mr. Adventure's specific question, "what is Barbara/Batgirl's story?" He didn't ask about other Batgirls, never mind Bat-Girls. He wanted to know about Barbara's history as Batgirl and Oracle and whether it had been reset. Betty Kane has no relevance to that question.
 
Christopher said:
I didn't mention Betty Kane/Bat-Girl because I was answering Mr. Adventure's specific question, "what is Barbara/Batgirl's story?" He didn't ask about other Batgirls, never mind Bat-Girls. He wanted to know about Barbara's history as Batgirl and Oracle and whether it had been reset. Betty Kane has no relevance to that question.
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A logical response. Well done.
 
Captain of the USS Averof said:
The Han Solo movie directors got fired by Disney! And so late in the production with only a couple of weeks left on the shoot! Replacement director is to be announced. Disney didn't even attempt a decent "cover up"! Wonder if we'll see any "Han Solo is doomed", "It will be changed drastically", "Star Wars is finished" articles and posts. (Not really though. I know that's reserved for WB/DC only.)

http://www.avclub.com/article/phil-lord-and-chris-miller-drop-out-han-solo-movie-257102
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Ron Howard has been announced as the new director. Could be good.
 
This just came up in relation to the Han Solo situation, bit is relevant here also. There is a Director's Guild of America rule that states the following:
“A director who is replaced after directing ninety percent (90 percent) but less than one hundred percent (100 percent) of the scheduled principal photography of any motion picture shall be the Director of the film entitled to all the post-production creative rights set forth.”
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As far as what this means for the anti-Snyder crowd out there, another portion of the DGA's rules says the following:
“No one shall be allowed to interfere with the director of the film during the period of the Director’s Cut. There shall be no ‘cutting behind’ the Director as that term is commonly understood in the motion picture industry.”
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IOW, Snyder is the person entitled, as per this rule, to have the "final word" on Justice League's structure, tone, and composition even though he has voluntarily stepped aside and handed post-production duties over to Joss, and so the decision to turn to Danny Elfman to supplement the film's existing score was very likely made with his input, even if it was merely cursory.

The existence of this rule also puts paid once and for all the notion that Joss could come in and dramatically restructure the film, something that, as noted previously, he wouldn't have done anyway even if it weren't not already prohibited by DGA rules.
 
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DigificWriter said:
This just came up in relation to the Han Solo situation, bit is relevant here also. There is a Director's Guild of America rule that states the following:


As far as what this means for the anti-Snyder crowd out there, another portion of the DGA's rules says the following:


IOW, Snyder is the person entitled, as per this rule, to have the "final word" on Justice League's structure, tone, and composition even though he has voluntarily stepped aside and handed post-production duties over to Joss, and so the decision to turn to Danny Elfman to supplement the film's existing score was very likely made with his input, even if it was merely cursory.

The existence of this rule also puts paid once and for all the notion that Joss could come in and dramatically restructure the film, something that, as noted previously, he wouldn't have done anyway even if it weren't not already prohibited by DGA rules.
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If that's true, how are any movies allowed to be released in a state the Director didn't want? How was Suicide Squad not released exactly as David Ayer wanted it? He sure as hell had no say in the tone or composition of the final cut, and he filmed 100% of the movie. Yet somehow it was lighter then what he wanted and the released cut was done by people with apparently no input from him. So, those laws certainly couldn't stop WB from releasing a movie that is very much against what snyder may want. Companies have been locking Director's out of doing the theatrical cut for years, so those rules aren't used as you're saying they are.
 
These rules specifically apply in situations where a director is replaced after having completed 90% of a film's principal photography, which is why it's relevant to the situation with Justice League and could possibly be relevant to what's going on with Han Solo.

It's not an absolute guarantee that Warner Bros. can't or won't ask for changes in the cut of the film that result in the film being different than what Snyder intended, but what it does guarantee is that Snyder has the right to know about any changes made.
 
I'm not sure why it even matters. Just because Snyder may be legally entitled to complete a cut, unless it's specifically in his contract, WB are under no obligation to release his cut in any way.
 
Tosk said:
I'm not sure why it even matters. Just because Snyder may be legally entitled to complete a cut, unless it's specifically in his contract, WB are under no obligation to release his cut in any way.
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Yep, that's what I was saying. It doesn't matter if he gets to make a cut, WB is probably under no obligation to use his cut (I really doubt they signed a contract where they have to go with his cut).
 
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As if WB would pass up a chance for those sweet heaps of Original Director's Cut Special Edition Blu-Ray money... :p
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Well, we haven't seen even a hint that they're going to release Ayers cut of Suicide Squad, so if there was a Snyder JL cut different then the theatrical there isn't a guarantee that people would see it. Heck, BvS only has two cuts seemingly because they realized that the first cut was too long to reasonably expect people to sit through in theaters (its still too long in the theatrical cut, but that's another conversation). So, if they end up going with a JL cut that Snyder isn't involved with, we probably wouldn't see his cut.
 
David Ayer is a liar who lies when he said there would be no extended cut for Suicide Squad.

I hope Jenkin won't be pressured by WB to release a video release with unusable footage as an extended cut because of Wonder Woman's popularity.
 
Dream said:
David Ayer is a liar who lies when he said there would be no extended cut for Suicide Squad.
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He never said there will be no extended cut, he said there is no alternate cut of the movie.
At the time people were claiming that there's this radically different version of the movie hidden somewhere, and Ayer just said that the released version is his version of the movie.
People still don't believe him for some reason even though the extended cut is the same movie, only slightly longer... :shrug:
 
^^So long as they released both versions (which they almost always do) what difference would it make?
 
Wonder Woman won't have a "Director's Cut" because it doesn't need it. It was great as released. WB didn't screw up with it's editing like it did with BvS and SS. WB didn't make an Extended Cut for BvS and SS just to make more money but to correct their initial mistake and try to salvage the mess.
 
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Still waiting for the Director's Extended Alternate cut of Man Of Steel*. What's the matter WB? I thought you were only interested in quick cash grabs and double dipping.

*Also insert:
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
Superman Returns
etc.
 
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I agree. That definitely proves that money is not a motivating factor in how they handle all their home releases.
 
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