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The Flat-Earth Conspiracy Theory

Not only HOW but WHY would every mission perpetuate a conspiracy to make the Earth appear spherical in all the video? The effort... the extensive network of people able to keep a secret... But even if you then look at physics, a flat disc would not work right in space as a celestial body.
I don't know how much the flat-earthers agree with each other, but the propaganda of theirs that I've seen indicates they believe outer space does not exist. The stars are all spots of light on a dome a few hundred miles above our heads, with the sun hovering a little below it, traveling in a circle over the Earth so that it illuminates only part of Earth's surface at a time, supposedly explaining why it is daytime in some time zones while it's nighttime in others. Of course, with that model the sun would always be above the horizon. The fact that we can see the sun set at night strikes me as the most obvious proof their model doesn't work.

As for the WHY, the explanations I've seen are religious. Satan is inspiring governments to teach evolution and the big bang so that people won't need God, and a round Earth is part of that story.
 
I suspect the vast majority of Flat Earthers are pulling an epic troll, much like those who create and propagate alt-right memes and invent outrages about them. They don't really believe the crap they spew, they are just entertaining themselves by goading others into reacting.
 
I don't know how much the flat-earthers agree with each other, but the propaganda of theirs that I've seen indicates they believe outer space does not exist. The stars are all spots of light on a dome a few hundred miles above our heads, with the sun hovering a little below it, traveling in a circle over the Earth so that it illuminates only part of Earth's surface at a time, supposedly explaining why it is daytime in some time zones while it's nighttime in others. Of course, with that model the sun would always be above the horizon. The fact that we can see the sun set at night strikes me as the most obvious proof their model doesn't work.

As for the WHY, the explanations I've seen are religious. Satan is inspiring governments to teach evolution and the big bang so that people won't need God, and a round Earth is part of that story.
Sounds like these are nut jobs who watched that TV series "The Dome" and exclaimed "That's it!! We're living in a huge dome!"

Frankly, I think The Matrix movie did more social damage than we realize. There appears to be many people deluded into believing an alternate reality, one that lurks beneath the layers of "visual reality", a facade... a veneer... to what's truly going on. ;)
 
I suspect the vast majority of Flat Earthers are pulling an epic troll, much like those who create and propagate alt-right memes and invent outrages about them. They don't really believe the crap they spew, they are just entertaining themselves by goading others into reacting.
I've no doubt that at least some are.

Trolling is devious!

Trolling is fun!

Let's see how many people we can fool!

And wow, look at that, we're making money off our ridiculous videos! Let's make more!!
 
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Time to post CHL's appropriate and ongoing series.
Highly recommended if only for the entertainment factor. :)
 
I came across a fascinatingly dumb Flat-Earth comment on Youtube, and I wanted to share:
John Smith10 months ago
+SirHuddleston Fuddleston
Lol if anyone is the dumb one it is you, you can't even communicate a coherent argument!!
Never mind not answering my question!!
You are placing a toy aeroplane on a globe and believe that toy aeroplane can fly horizontally round a ball????? lol
The only place the plane would fly to is into space!!!
Explain how a plane can magically fly down a ball past Argentina, past Antarctica and back up the other side without having to fly upsides down?
As the ground and sea are always below the plane, tell me how can a plane fly round the equator on a ball. Flying round the ball horizontally the ground would be to the side of the plane. In order to have the ground below the plane it would have to fly on its side as it travelled along the equator on a ball.
Now if you are not as dumb as you sound and want to reply, take a deep breath and try and be coherent so I don't have to pity you and can understand what your trying to say!

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The sad part is, I know where the guy has that argument from...
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What I don't get about Flat Earthers is that they show a map bordered by the Antarctic coast but ignore the fact that Ice Wall has to be, what, 60,000? 70,000? miles long according to their scale.
Doesn't matter how freakin' big it has to be - we're still going to make the Snow Miser pay for it.

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A former coworker of mine believes Earth is flat and that NASA is a hoax. He also believes in FEMA death camps, so whatever.
 
I came across this article the other day, discussing why Trump's supporters don't care that he lies:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ence-of-blue-lies-may-explain-trumps-support/

The idea is that there's something called "blue lies" -- somewhere between white lies, which are told to help others ("My, what a... lovely tie!") and "black" lies, which are told to hurt others. Blue lies are meant to help members of your own group and hurt members of other groups. Sometimes the political or ideological positions people take are things they know to be untrue, but they assert them as truth anyway because it hurts the other side.

The thing about the flat-Earth theory is that nobody with any observational skills or intelligence at all actually believes it. Anyone who's traveled more than a few kilometers from home has seen familiar landmarks sink below the horizon. As such, intellectuals have long used the alleged belief in a flat Earth as a way of mocking the ignorant. The old legend about Columbus sailing to prove the Earth was round is the most famous example of this. Everyone already knew the Earth was round; the Ancient Greeks proved that two millennia ago. The only debate in Columbus's time was over just how big it was, and Columbus made his voyage because he believed the wrong answer, thinking that the Earth was smaller than it actually is and that he could therefore sail west and reach Asia before his crews ran out of food and water. The only reason he survived his ignorance is because the Americas happened to be in the way, but he went to his grave believing he'd actually reached the East Indies, which is why the lands he discovered ended up being called the West Indies -- to immortalize the fact that Columbus was an idiot.

But it suited writers like Washington Irving to recast Columbus as a mythic hero of the Enlightenment, whose discovery of the Americas disproved the folly of the hidebound institutions back in Europe. In order to mock those institutions, they invented the myth that they'd actually believed the Earth was flat -- something that was obviously untrue and only an absolute moron would actually believe. It was pure propaganda. Ironically, later generations forgot that and it came to be taught as factual history, even though it makes no sense if you actually think about it.

Anyway, because of the Columbus myth, belief in a flat Earth became a common metaphor for mocking any belief system that's scientifically ignorant or out of touch with objective reality, such as creationism or climate denial. So what I believe is that the anti-intellectual, anti-science faction in America has consciously chosen to embrace the pretense of believing in a flat Earth as a blue lie, a way of expressing their hostility to science and reason and the political causes aligned with them. They know, on some level, that it's not objectively true, but they don't care, because it's not about objectivity, it's about ideology and defiance. If the other side derides it, then they embrace it.
This is all makes sense and I never thought about it in this way. Please tell me though that sailors at least believed sea monsters were real. Be nice if one myth was true.

Jason
 
That sailors believed sea monsters were real doesn't mean that the myth was true, but I guess it depends on how you define monster. Blue whales and giant squid seem prosaic when viewed through the lens of modern science.
 
That sailors believed sea monsters were real doesn't mean that the myth was true, but I guess it depends on how you define monster. Blue whales and giant squid seem prosaic when viewed through the lens of modern science.
That's what I meant. I didn't think sea monsters were real either but wondered if they did. I wonder what they thought about sharks?

Jason
 
Flat Earthers are desperate for their Truman Show moment, where millions of people, crowded around TV's, watch a man sail into the side of a wall with a thunk. And yet none if them have stolen a boat and half drowned themselves trying. Which is a pity.

Hugo - they'd only believe a man, of course
 
I think it would be so much cooler if this guy was planning to sail to the Antarctic Wall and find the edge instead of just sailing along the 57-degree south latitude. However, he doesn't have any donations yet, so it might not matter.
It'd be interesting to see a reality show of him trying it - mainly to watch the aftermath and his reaction as the people that previously agreed with him turn ugly on him and accuse him of having sold out to the round Earth conspiracy once he has to report the truth.
 
It'd be interesting to see a reality show of him trying it - mainly to watch the aftermath and his reaction as the people that previously agreed with him turn ugly on him and accuse him of having sold out to the round Earth conspiracy once he has to report the truth.
They would argue it was all a hoax like the moon landings. Why give nutters more publicity anyway?
 
Even if earth was flat you can't say it's flat. What about mountains and canyons and oceans. Maybe they don't think space is real but how about air and the sky that it fills up? Also how do they explain the sun?

Jason
 
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