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The Flat-Earth Conspiracy Theory

Even if earth was flat you can't say it's flat. What about mountains and canyons and oceans. Maybe they don't think space is real but how about air and the sky that it fills up? Also how do they explain the sun?

Jason
Watch the video by CoolHardLogic I posted earlier.
He gives a good summary of the bollocks and how the flat earthers try to rationalize it.
 
They would argue it was all a hoax like the moon landings. Why give nutters more publicity anyway?
I somehow feel like you missed my point, as you seem to be trying to disagree by saying the same thing I was saying. Which is fine. We're both geniuses, and I declare victory. ;)
 
If this whole thing really is just a big troll by people who know better, then shame on them. :thumbdown:

I believe that those with higher intellectual capacity have a moral obligation to act as responsible and guiding "big sisters/brothers" to the intellectually impaired, instead of deliberately misleading them with blatant misinformation that they will blindly follow, for the purposes of a massive practical joke.

Kor
 
I didn't even know this was still a thing for along time. I think the first time I even heard someone talk about it was when I think it was Kyrie Irving of the Cleveland Cav's talk about it but I might have the wrong basketball player.

Jason
 
Please tell me though that sailors at least believed sea monsters were real. Be nice if one myth was true.
Monsters are usually the things that are most likely to kill and/or eat you. So there are any number of sea creatures that could be considered sea monsters. Add in a bit of embellishment or panic-borne exaggeration, get the story told by numerous people who add in their own refinements, and that's how the stories get passed along.
 
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^No, auntiehill is absolutely correct about this. Cats just do things like that. There are some places in my apartment where I never put anything above floor level. It's just going to end up there anyway.
 
^No, auntiehill is absolutely correct about this. Cats just do things like that. There are some places in my apartment where I never put anything above floor level. It's just going to end up there anyway.
True. :lol:
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I came across this article the other day, discussing why Trump's supporters don't care that he lies:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ence-of-blue-lies-may-explain-trumps-support/

The idea is that there's something called "blue lies" -- somewhere between white lies, which are told to help others ("My, what a... lovely tie!") and "black" lies, which are told to hurt others. Blue lies are meant to help members of your own group and hurt members of other groups. .

It's also about having a sense of mastery--of empowerment. Frances Cress Welsing wrote some awful things.

If you think you are right and the educated are in the wrong--it creates the hubris of the trailer park--and that is a real thing too.
 
Something else I don't understand is if they don't believe in space where do they think earth is located? Do they think the entire universe is just a flat surfaced Earth? Kind of reminds me of the TNG ep "Remember Me" were Crusher's fake universe eventually became nothing more than the Enterprise with nothing outside of it.

Jason
 
I haven't read the link so perhaps shouldn't comment. However I can understand a childlike belief that the Earth is flat because we don't have the everyday perceptions of it being otherwise. However one of my favorite possession is a globe. Better than a map. Can't imagine Star Trek with flat little tablet planets everywhere..
 
Even children understand why sailing ships disappear beyond the horizon or where the sun goes once you explain it to them.

What children do not grasp (same as flat earthers) is the sheer scope of the Earth.
It is so ginormously freaking huge it just blows the mind.
Even if it's one of the smaller planets of the solar system.

Also gravity. They just don't understand how it works, because they lack the concept of what spacetime and a gravity well is.

A pretty good visualization is this, but even this requires the mental jump to a higher dimension to make sense of it.
I think some people just can't do that.
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Even if it's one of the smaller planets of the solar system.

Well, it's the largest of the system's four (known) rocky planets, with the highest gravity of any (known) world with a solid surface. (I qualify it because of the possibility of a superterrestrial Planet 9 out beyond the Kuiper Belt -- and who knows, possibly more undiscovered worlds way out there on the borderland of Sol.)
 
Also gravity. They just don't understand how it works, because they lack the concept of what spacetime and a gravity well is.
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I think some people just can't do that.
One of those people is Scott Adams, who has a frankly laughably stupid notion about gravity.
http://www.insolitology.com/rloddities/dilbert.htm
What if, says Adams, instead of gravity being an attracting force, it is merely the doubling in size of all objects every second – we wouldn’t perceive it as increase in size, because we’d be increasing along with all the other objects. Okay, this wouldn’t give us the usual acceleration of gravity at about 9.8 meters per second per second, but let’s let him slide on the math and assume he meant an increase in size at a rate that would give us the proper acceleration. How, he asks, would we be able to tell the difference between this and gravity the way we perceive it now? He gives us one answer, in the motion of planets around the sun, which should be bumping into each other all the time (and bumping into the sun, too). Luckily, he tells us, the universe is expanding, which allows all these objects to grow into it. How convenient that the rate of expansion in the universe is just enough to counterbalance the ‘gravitational’ increase in size of all objects.
I threw my copy of The Dilbert Future into the recycling bin. I didn't want to give it to a charity shop in case someone's brain became infected with its memes.
 
One of those people is Scott Adams, who has a frankly laughably stupid notion about gravity.
http://www.insolitology.com/rloddities/dilbert.htm

Okay, that's a self-contradictory idea on the face of it. If the idea is that things are just getting closer to each other because they're enlarging to fill the space between them, then what he says about the space between them expanding to keep the planets at the same distance cancels that out.
 
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