Not only the RCC but also the Orthodox and Assyrian churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Constantinople_(360)
Do people still believe in Hell?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Constantinople_(360)
I don't know if there's a God or Heaven or Hell? I won't know until that time comes. I like surprises.
But it seems like Christianity has been screwing things up since the very beginning. With their religion reading like a manual for controlling the human race written by a dictator.
But it seems like Christianity has been screwing things up since the very beginning. With their religion reading like a manual for controlling the human race written by a dictator.
Considering Nicea, it pretty much was.
The Nicene Creed was formulated by the churches of the Roman Empire, which wan't at all concerned with democracy.
I'd advise to hunt down some of those texts about the Akedah, for example some of the stuff in the Jewish Virtual Library. The strength (and sometimes weakness) of Judaism is that the Torah isn't really the be all and end all, and quite a lot of rabbinic thought and discussion of the Torah forms a bigger part of how Jews see it. Often it's kinda like the Marvel Universe - sure, you can just read and enjoy the main comic of the latest crossover event, but there's always other side comics that contain details of the story the main one missed out...
One could lament that it has been easy to psychologicalize sin out of existence--leaving folks off the hook. The idea of sin--especially in treating folks badly--can be a useful one.
Naw--it's Jesus, Lincoln, and Doctor Zaius
Sad that atheists don't get a hell of their own for Salem witch trial leaders, Westboro weirdoes, Hypatia killers.--nicer that way.
You don't get to call yourself a loving god with the idea of infinite punishment for finite sin.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/essays/infinite-punishment-for-finite-sins/
Now, there was something interesting in the movie WHAT DREAMS MAY COME.
There, suicides found a way to hell--not because some kind of divine ogre put them there--but because that was their last frame of mind, if you will. The concept of sin as waveform.
If we are part of a simulation, to see which of us deserves to "go on" as in the Riverworld saga of Farmer--then it makes sense to omit more unsavory elements. It just may be that the folks who thump Korans and bibles and whatever are those who actually wind up being "left behind."
We don't need that loose in the multi-verse.
Naw--it's Jesus, Lincoln, and Doctor Zaius
American Christians always playing the victim.They have had this country by the short hairs for Centuries and still act like they're being oppressed if their grip slips just a little.
Sad that atheists don't get a hell of their own for Salem witch trial leaders, Westboro weirdoes, Hypatia killers.--nicer that way.
You don't get to call yourself a loving god with the idea of infinite punishment for finite sin.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/essays/infinite-punishment-for-finite-sins/
Now, there was something interesting in the movie WHAT DREAMS MAY COME.
There, suicides found a way to hell--not because some kind of divine ogre put them there--but because that was their last frame of mind, if you will. The concept of sin as waveform.
If we are part of a simulation, to see which of us deserves to "go on" as in the Riverworld saga of Farmer--then it makes sense to omit more unsavory elements. It just may be that the folks who thump Korans and bibles and whatever are those who actually wind up being "left behind."
We don't need that loose in the multi-verse.
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I like your style! And I definitely intend to look up the midrashim sometime before Rosh Hashana, when I'll have to actually listen to (or at least read) that #%^ story.Just curious, what movement/denomination do you belong to, if any?
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He belongs to the denomination of adorable.
Just curious, what movement/denomination do you belong to, if any?
Seriously, when it comes to religion, Lemons is about the smartest guy, and the sweetest, you'll see around here.
What about the gospels of young Jesus that were not in the Bible? Why were they not there?
Are they better or worse than the young Indiana Jones' chronicles?
There are stories that young Jesus travelled with Joseph of Arimathea to India and so was exposed to Buddhist teachings and that he also journeyed to Britain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_years_of_Jesus
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I don't know much about them but they do tell of a younger Jesus using his powers in public.
Walking on water, turning water into wine, raising the dead, feeding a multitude with very little food, healing the sick, catching huge numbers of fish, becoming radiant in glory, calming the storm, finding a coin in the mouth of a fish, or cursing a fig tree so that it withers? Some of those powers are quite esoteric and specialised.
Apparently, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas reports the following miracles from Jesus' childhood:
- Water controlled and purified
- Made birds of clay and brought them to life
- Resurrected dead playmate Zeno
- Healed a woodcutter's foot
- Held water in his cloak
- Harvested 100 bushels of wheat from a single seed
- Stretched a board that was short for carpentry
- Resurrected a teacher he earlier struck down
- Healed James' viper bite
- Resurrected a dead child
- Resurrected a dead man
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So in actual fact prequels to successful franchises have been with us much longer than the current prequel/reboot mania...
Conservative Judaism. Although somewhat ironically, many Conservative Jews I know are Democrats...
Doesn't seem particularly ironic to me, because I'm aware that, historically, most US Jews from all movements have been Dems. It's only recently (last few decades) that there's been a substantial number of Jewish Republicans. The synagogue that I am in the process of joining is also Conservative. Part of what I love there is the combination of traditional liturgy and progressive social action.
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It might have something to do with the part where he fights a dragon. Seriously.
The best bit was where he went north of the Wall and took on the white walkers. Of wait, that was Jon Snow...
Nice idea. Probably wouldn't even have worked when he was in one of those moods, though. He simply would have said something to the effect that 'the Holy Spirit clearly had shown him so' and that would have been the end of the discussion for him.
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