The proper technical explanation is Something Something Speed Force.
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The proper technical explanation is Something Something Speed Force.
Well if this Legends of Tomorrow- we'd note that time had basically rewritten itself thus becoming permanent.(paraphrasing the show). Also, it might be argued that since Wally had already had his accident along with Jesse, that his speed metagene became active in addition to having his speed activated by Savitar.
Given that the Speed Force seems to be a sentient entity that can decide what powers to grant to speedsters (e.g. requiring Barry to earn his speed back, or not letting him alter history again), perhaps it allowed Wally to keep his speed as compensation for Barry's imprisonment.
Is it really that easy to kill a specter, a time wraith? He might be fine once he melts...
At least it looks like we'll be getting an episode or two with Wally as the Flash, and Jay is around to mentor him... can we get Max Mercury and Impulse finally?? And can someone *please* dye Wally's hair red?
Speculation on season 4 villain:
Both Abra Kadabra and Savatar name dropped Devoe as a villain that Flash will fight at some point in the future. So, it is likely that Devoe will be the main villain next season. In the comics, Devoe's main power was mind control and Savatar mentions a cerebral inhibitor which would seem to confirm that. So it is looking like Devoe will mind control a bunch of metas or rogues and use them for his plan. Should make for an interesting villain instead of a speedster.
Both Abra Kadabra and Savatar name dropped Devoe as a villain that Flash will fight at some point in the future. So, it is likely that Devoe will be the main villain next season. In the comics, Devoe's main power was mind control and Savatar mentions a cerebral inhibitor which would seem to confirm that. So it is looking like Devoe will mind control a bunch of metas or rogues and use them for his plan. Should make for an interesting villain instead of a speedster.
It makes sense that cold would be the Black Flash's kryptonite, so to speak. After all, heat is molecular motion. Making something colder means slowing down that motion. Killer Frost is supposed to be able to generate cold at absolute zero (a physical impossibility in real life, due to quantum effects), which would mean zero molecular motion of any kind -- and so it follows, in a crazy comic-book logic kind of way, that an entity made of pure Speed Force would cease to exist once robbed of all motion.
Although Savitar-Barry disintegrated even without the Black Flash around to "catch up" with him. So maybe the BF would reconstitute after all, because the temporal forces it embodies are still in effect.
Plus, back in season 1, Captain Cold's freeze gun was able to slow down and hurt Flash. So there is precedent. And KF can create temps much colder than Captain Cold's gun so it is consistent with what the show has shown us before.
Re: Wally retaining his powers - the Philosopher's Stone gave off an energy pulse in this ep. Possibly empowering other Flashpoint metas. Previously, Savitar's memory loss would have stopped him getting to that point and thus Wally lost his speed, but now past the Event Irison (narf) and that pulse, Wally's empowerment by the Stone is locked in.
Actually, Cold's gun was stated to be able to freeze stuff down to absolute zero as well, so it and KF are on a par as regards damage potential, but KF can be more versatile with her powers.
When they first showed Iris as HR, I thought for sure it was Harry, and thought "Iris" was going to be a regenerating/vibrating Jessie Quick. HR/Team Flash setting all of that up, including his "accidentally" letting Savitar know where Iris is, would have been a great plan.
As soon as Savitar was running from the Time Paradox, he should have stopped gaining new memories. At that point, there is no longer a casual link between Our Barry and Savitar to upload the memories through. Then again, when Barry wiped his own memories, Savitar should have turned into happy/ignorant "Bart." The logic on these shows doesn't always work.
As soon as Savitar was running from the Time Paradox, he should have stopped gaining new memories. At that point, there is no longer a casual link between Our Barry and Savitar to upload the memories through. Then again, when Barry wiped his own memories, Savitar should have turned into happy/ignorant "Bart." The logic on these shows doesn't always work.
I had forgotten that. But I do think that Killer Frost is a lot more powerful than Captain Cold. So it makes sense that she could use her powers to freeze the Black Flash completely.
Well, absolute zero is absolute zero. You can't get more absolute than that. That's why they call it that. At most, maybe KF could lower something's temperature to absolute zero faster than Snart's gun could. Which would, admittedly, be useful against the Grim Reaper of speedsters.
There are different ways that KF's freeze beam could be more powerful. In physics, power is measured as work over time or force times displacement over time. If she lowers the temp faster as you pointed out, that would be more powerful. Alternatively, it is also possible that she can put more force into her freeze beam than Captain Cold's gun does.
True. However, KF can also get an object down to its lowest enthalpy state (as per season 3, episode 4, when Barry was trapped in the mirror):
I am now convinced that there HAS to be an "original" time line that created Dark Barry to begin with, because there is NO way this is still a predestination paradox. They spent the whole second half of the season changing the timeline in larger and larger ways; the previous iteration, Barry never even knew Savitar's identity. Killer Frost was still evil years in the future. The entire resolution wasn't breaking an endless loop.
Because Savitar was erased after he gave Wally his powers. If they got rid of him by stopping his creation, then nothing he did would have happened (Wally, et al).
The little engine that could, explains why time remnants don't immediately evaporate, or get absorbed by the timeline.
A good answer, except that Wally LOST his power when Barry and Savitar lost their memories.
That might be a decent answer too, if explained.
But isn't that what happened? Savitar is erased because they DID stop his creation.
They did both. They stopped his creation, but also made it so that whatever destroys the Time Remnants was able to get him.
I have never been a fan of the Speed Force episodes, so I was not too happy about that ending. Even though originally I defended the reveal of Savitar as an evil version of Barry I am not happy with the execution we actually saw either
I would love Barry to act like Captain Kirk and challenge this supposed all powerful Godlike Speedforce. "What does God need with a Speedster?" I hope when all this is resolved they move on from all this.
I would love Barry to act like Captain Kirk and challenge this supposed all powerful Godlike Speedforce. "What does God need with a Speedster?" I hope when all this is resolved they move on from all this.
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