The New Klingons

[Bry_Sinclair]

Totally agree @DarKush (the Hur'q would be great to see!).

Using the Klingons once again reeks of lack of imagination or even a willingness to take risks and do something different with regards to story telling--especially given how many Klingon characters have been cast and their announcements were made along with Starfleet then this isn't just going to be a single plot that will be revealed in the pilot episode.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Why aren't Vulcans red skinned with pointed tails then? Why is it just the Klingons who are being redesigned yet again?

 

[fireproof78]

Xenophobia. There's help for that you know.

I know, i know. I see a counselor.

Why aren't Vulcans red skinned with pointed tails then? Why is it just the Klingons who are being redesigned yet again?

Possibly because the Klingons have been shown in so many iterations in the past, that it feels safer to provide a redesign to them, rather than the Vulcans, who are far more iconic in the cultural memory.

 

[KirbyHawk]

I voted no, but I am trying to have an open mind. If they are well-written, then I don't care I guess.

 

[Mudd]

Why aren't Vulcans red skinned with pointed tails then? Why is it just the Klingons who are being redesigned yet again?

This isn't even a logical question in it's own right - you're asking why, given that they keep changing the Klingons, Discovery isn't showing Vulcans as Roddenberry originally envisioned them.

Uh...wha?

 

[Trekkin]

Why aren't Vulcans red skinned with pointed tails then? Why is it just the Klingons who are being redesigned yet again?

You may not have noticed this, but new Sarek doesn't look much like Mark Lenard.

Bet he's using different make up too, the slacker.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You may not have noticed this, but new Sarek doesn't look much like Mark Lenard.

Bet he's using different make up too, the slacker.

Needs bushier eyebrows and ragged bangs. That's how Vulcans looked back then!!!!!

 

[Trekkin]

If there's no visible join line between the fake ears and his face when watched in HD, I call boycott!

 

[Mirror Mirror]

If there's no visible join line between the fake ears and his face when watched in HD, I call boycott!

You say this in jest, but based off posts here and elsewhere, some folks would.

 

[Kor]

What if they are actually the Klingon gods? They don't look totally unlike Fek'lhr in TNG Devil's Due (minus the hair). Plus Bryan Fuller wrote Voyager's Barge of the Dead. Could be a continuation of his interest in Klingon mythology seeded into the concept for Discovery. Of course in reality Klingon 'gods' might mean an original, different race of Klingons.

The Klingon gods that the Klingon warriors killed a long time ago according to Worf? It would be interesting if that legend had some basis in historical events, such as the expulsion of a certain faction.

Kor

 

[137th Gebirg]

Was thinking the same thing myself earlier.

 

[JD]

I like the new Klingons, they still have enough familiar elements that they are recognizable, but still have a more interesting look than just ridges on their forehead (or a completely human look). I still think there's a chance that these are not normal Klingons and we'll also see traditional looking Klingons.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

What if they are actually the Klingon gods? They don't look totally unlike Fek'lhr in TNG Devil's Due (minus the hair). Plus Bryan Fuller wrote Voyager's Barge of the Dead. Could be a continuation of his interest in Klingon mythology seeded into the concept for Discovery. Of course in reality Klingon 'gods' might mean an original, different race of Klingons.

I recall in some of the novels that may or may not have been written by Beyer (I can't remember at this point) that there was some kind of implication that Klingons interbred with their gods before killing them and that some of those genetic traits were starting to pop up in modern-day Klingons. My take-away was that what ever species that enslaved the ancient Klingons mated with them (as some slavers are wont to do) but eventually the slave Klingons overthrew the aliens. Perhaps Beyer has added this into the canon mythos and what we see are either the ancient slaver aliens or Klingons that are more closely related to the old gods.

Or...they could just be regular Klingons. I can't wait to find out!

 

[Kor]

^ Kristen Beyer did write the VOY novel "Full Circle," which dealt with that concept.

I was thinking that maybe the Hur'q and the ancient Klingon gods were the same. But the Hur'q invasion was much more recent in Klingon history.

We have never seen the Hur'q in canon Trek, but in non-canon materials they have been depicted as insectoid rather than humanoid.

Kor

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I wish the poll listed 'indifferent' because that's how I feel about it. But I suppose if I went with the initial gut reaction...I didn't really like them.

 

[Mudd]

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Using the Klingons once again reeks of lack of imagination\

Familiarity breeds Star Trek.

 

[Tenacity]

Really, why not just come up with a new name and have them be a new original species?

Why have them be Klingons?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Really, why not just come up with a new name and have them be a new original species?

Why have them be Klingons?

Why not? it's part of the Star Trek brand.

 

[JD]

The Klingons are one of the only Trek aliens that are popular enough that even non-fans know who they are, so if they want to draw in non-fans it makes sense to use stuff that they would know. I can understand people wanting something new, but I think there will enough new things in DSC that bringing in a familiar race like the Klingons won't be a problem. Especially since it looks like they're doing something different from what we've gotten with them in the past.

 

[Kor]

Hmm, on second thought... the Hur'q invasion was in the 14th century.

And Worf said Klingon warriors killed their gods "a millenia [sic] ago." A thousand years before the 24th century would put the Klingon gods' demise in the 14th century. So maybe there is a correlation.

Kor