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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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I get this show is about Supergirl but i am starting to lose interest due to all the Feminist aspects of the show. I have no problem with a strong female lead or strong woman, but do have issues when one sex has to be portrayed as superior at the expense of the other.
Examples the Martian Manhunter or Mon El always getting their butts handed to them.
There's no reason why we can't not only have strong female characters but strong male leads as well, lets have both sexes portrayed as equals.
Examples the Martian Manhunter or Mon El always getting their butts handed to them.
There's no reason why we can't not only have strong female characters but strong male leads as well, lets have both sexes portrayed as equals.
I don't see anything of the sort happening in the show, and that's not what feminism means. Feminism means fighting for equal treatment of the sexes against a deeply ingrained social prejudice that keeps women from gaining full equality.
That's not because they're men, it's because they're not the stars of the show.
A sexist butt has overly masculine farts.
Supergirl vs The Guardians of the Galaxy
If James hasn't considered changing his costume yet he really should now.
Y'know I lean pretty left/liberal but this show really is pretty ham-fisted about making its points. However, I think the other side should take some solace that every single public TV not showing ESPN is tuned to Fox News.
If James hasn't considered changing his costume yet he really should now.
Y'know I lean pretty left/liberal but this show really is pretty ham-fisted about making its points. However, I think the other side should take some solace that every single public TV not showing ESPN is tuned to Fox News.
The message is intended for dummies and children.
You should feel proud Mr. A, because you have proven that are neither a dummy nor a child.
You should feel proud Mr. A, because you have proven that are neither a dummy nor a child.
Compared to the '40s Superman radio show, it's downright subtle.
Well, I have to admit that I really liked this episode.
Loved the Cat Grant aspects, even the stuff on Air Force One. Why? because it showed us that even the leader of the free world (the Prez) and the Queen of all media can fall victim to hubris.
Loved the slight insight into Kara's psyche as she watched the beginning of the Prez/Rhea Skype session when she exclaimed how glad she was that she voted for the lady. Insight? Yeah, even Supergirl wants a superhero to come in and join the battle which the Prez seemed to be doing when she called Rhea on the carpet.
I don't know anything about Durlans... but if they can survive a jetliner from being blown out of the sky, how the heck did somebody conquer their planet???
I really liked how free Supergirl was with Cat re who was on the alien ship... her best friend and her boyfriend. I also liked how she later confirmed that description was referring to two different people.
I also loved how wonderful Winn was in planting a remote control device on Cyborg Hank and how Supergirl took control of him (including choking Lillian)
But what I REALLY loved was Monel and Lena trying to save themselves.
Lena directs Monel to break the cover of a computer access port, which she overrides with her tiara. Monel is impressed. "I see why Kara loves you." And Lena admits she sees why Kara loves him.
I understand people guffaw over Supergirl's insistance upon trying to save Rhea from herself, and it makes me recall a scene from the Tsunami ep of Xena.
Xena stays behind to save the bad guy on the sinking ship, and he taunts her later.
"I'm a killer, why did you come back for me.., what did you expect?"
And Xena simply replied, "From you, nothing. From me, nothing less."
And that explains it for all of us, that like Kara and the Prez...the kid in us wants to believe our superheroes are really super.
As for all the political talk... if this was just a commercial for Democrats, would the writers really have made the first woman president a shape shifting alien??????
Loved the Cat Grant aspects, even the stuff on Air Force One. Why? because it showed us that even the leader of the free world (the Prez) and the Queen of all media can fall victim to hubris.
Loved the slight insight into Kara's psyche as she watched the beginning of the Prez/Rhea Skype session when she exclaimed how glad she was that she voted for the lady. Insight? Yeah, even Supergirl wants a superhero to come in and join the battle which the Prez seemed to be doing when she called Rhea on the carpet.
I don't know anything about Durlans... but if they can survive a jetliner from being blown out of the sky, how the heck did somebody conquer their planet???
I really liked how free Supergirl was with Cat re who was on the alien ship... her best friend and her boyfriend. I also liked how she later confirmed that description was referring to two different people.
I also loved how wonderful Winn was in planting a remote control device on Cyborg Hank and how Supergirl took control of him (including choking Lillian)
But what I REALLY loved was Monel and Lena trying to save themselves.
Lena directs Monel to break the cover of a computer access port, which she overrides with her tiara. Monel is impressed. "I see why Kara loves you." And Lena admits she sees why Kara loves him.
I understand people guffaw over Supergirl's insistance upon trying to save Rhea from herself, and it makes me recall a scene from the Tsunami ep of Xena.
Xena stays behind to save the bad guy on the sinking ship, and he taunts her later.
"I'm a killer, why did you come back for me.., what did you expect?"
And Xena simply replied, "From you, nothing. From me, nothing less."
And that explains it for all of us, that like Kara and the Prez...the kid in us wants to believe our superheroes are really super.
As for all the political talk... if this was just a commercial for Democrats, would the writers really have made the first woman president a shape shifting alien??????
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There are lots of aliens with superpowers, so there are lots of ways that other superpowered aliens could be defeated. We've seen that the Dominators can mind-control Kryptonians, for example.
In the comics, Durlans are basically shapeshifters -- the original one is the Legion of Super Heroes member called Chameleon Boy. Perhaps Marsdin shapeshifted into a form that could survive the crash.
Yes, absolutely. She wouldn't be Supergirl if she didn't risk everything to try to find a more peaceful solution. After all, destroying the ship wouldn't just kill Rhea, it would kill the majority of the surviving Daxamite race, most of whom are probably oppressed subjects with no choice but to follow her orders.
Yes, continue missing the point.
Well Supergirl is the star of the so of course she's gonna come out on top. Martian Manhunter could be in a show with Superman and he's probably still come of second best.
As for Mon-El, he's not as experienced as Kara at the superhero stuff as well the Daxamites not be as strong as the Kryptonians.
I addressed this in the "Resist" review:
That double standard of treatment is accepted in-series, and by some of this show's defenders where such matters are concerned. There's no excuse for James--experienced on the streets using an enhanced suit--should be torn down, while an ordinary cop is never questioned or doubted fighting creatures with powers far beyond her human ability. There's a reason for that double standard, and it only continues to expose the clear-as-day bias from the showrunners.
It does not end there. Notice how this series' biggest defenders never address the following dialogue from Cat--
Two in a long line of patently misandrist comments made since season one (listed in this review thread), yet said defenders say nothing about that--or how this kind of talk in-series is never, ever countered by anyone else, certainly not males. Its fine and they deceive themselves that its all (what they tell themselves is in) the service of feminism. This--and any form of reverse, belittling treatment in sociopolitical situations has been historically destructive, as it is based on a inherent hatred of another side. Characters are allowed to trash males while the showrunners, their characters (mouthpieces) and some members of the viewing audience happily accept such offensive dialogue.
From this series' evidence, the immature showrunners only see equality coming with the constant mockery & implied decline of another side, hence the rational commentary on how this series hammers the relationships / comparisons between males and females.
I'm on the same side as the show politically, but I think their attempts at political commentary are hamfisted and not particularly clever. Rhea gets to be Trump because she's the evil alien invader, when the character on the show who most resembles Trump is Cat...a self-absorbed media mogul who in this episode put herself in a political situation for which she was dangerously unqualified. Putting Cat in a situation in which she becomes Earth-38's answer to Trump...now that would be clever.
Except that Cat is also intelligent, compassionate (in her way), capable of admitting error and learning from mistakes (at least sometimes), and motivated to inspire the best in others rather than trample everyone around her for the sake of her own self-interest. Her self-absorbed media-queen persona is just the surface camouflage for a deeply complex and caring person. Oh, and also, her business ventures actually succeed, because she doesn't constantly sabotage herself with stupid decisions. There's really no similarity between the two at all.
Besides, the allegory isn't about standing up to just one guy, it's about standing up to the entire oppressive movement that made him their figurehead. Rhea is a wealthy elitist who wants to maintain her power and privilege at the expense of the masses. There are plenty of current political and corporate figures who fit that description.
^ Well, if you enjoy what they're doing, it looks like you're in for more hamfisted goodness, if the title of the season finale is anything to go by.
Sounds like a useful role model--maybe think about emulating some of those qualities instead of passively watching them on television for hours on end?
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