We know that is not true. The development of the death in TFA developed when Lucas was working on Episode 7 and that seems to be working with the movie as a standalone ala TPM or an episode of TCW. The initial person slated to die was Luke with shades of Ben (and Vader in ANH) and somehow it shifted to Han after Kasdan/Abrams took over. If anything the death of Han was less motivated by the necessity of the story and more by the bts politics in TFA between the various parties such as Kasdan/Ford who have a major hard-on for killing Han since ROTJ and of course Disney needing to sell tickets.
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We know that is not true. The development of the death in TFA developed when Lucas was working on Episode 7 and that seems to be working with the movie as a standalone ala TPM or an episode of TCW. The initial person slated to die was Luke with shades of Ben (and Vader in ANH) and somehow it shifted to Han after Kasdan/Abrams took over. If anything the death of Han was less motivated by the necessity of the story and more by the bts politics in TFA between the various parties such as Kasdan/Ford who have a major hard-on for killing Han since ROTJ and of course Disney needing to sell tickets.
Lucas said they didn't use any of his ideas.
That is not true. Art of Force Awakens charts out how his original ideas evolved with input from Abrams/Kasdan/Arndt with Kira/Sam/John Doe/Jedi Killer -> Rey/Finn/Poe/Kylo Ren.
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We "know" it's not true?? I would appreciate citations on this BTS info rather than blanket statements of what is known and not known.
Just because Lucas presented a story with Han's death does not mean it wasn't organically built in to the story when Kasdan did his script.
And, my original point still stands that it serves the story, regardless of BTS politics. Technically, the reason Obi-Wan in ANH died was because Guiness requested it. But, it still impacted the story going forward.
Between Rogue 1, and TFA I think Disney Star Wars sucks. Horribly. I am glad there is Doctor who and Star Trek. I know Episode 8 is the last time Carey Fisher will be on screen, but I still won't go see it. I can't stand the new Star wars. Classic trilogy any day. I actually think the prequels were better then Disney Star Wars. Sad...
How so?
You know after watching RO CGI Tarkin it makes me hungry for more. Much much more. Tarkin is my favorite baddie in the SW universe. Cushing sells Tarkin as a serious believable Sci Fi main villain and I think Guy Henry did a excellent job on his part in pulling it off. Rough in some edges but overall excellently done. Only Cushing can sell more Tarkin convincingly. He owns that role. I'd like to see more of this to fill in Tarkin's pre ep. 4 backstory. Hopefully this was a learning process and they can be better polished if they do more CGI characters later on. I'm open to them doing OT younger characters with this process to recreate the look. After seeing RO in the theatre and really scrutinizing these scenes after buying the Blu Ray I'm becoming more impressed with what they did here.
Just watched it. Slow to start but it picked up during the second half. I liked Jyn and K-2SO but I couldn't remember who any of the other new characters were. It's depressing that they all died.
How is it a fan film?
The comparison might be fair if Tarkin was a non-speaking role.
The young Terminator does speak. It's a superior effect. Now maybe that's because they could spend more time/money since it's not on screen as long, but never-the-less.
Most of the value of the movie comes from the shiny coat of Star Wars paint, much like a fan film. Just an observation, I do enjoy me some fan films.
I think RO is far more dark and gritty than most fan films would go.
Dang it. I should have said, "...if Tarkin was a role where he spoke only twice and did not have to emote very much..."
I don't think RO is a fan film. But "dark and gritty" is kind of a fan film calling card.
I'm told some fan films use naughty words to show how "edgy" they are.
I don't think it is a fan film either, and I think it is willing to go places that fan films usually will not go.
This is Star Wars not Star Trek. I know its easy to confuse the twoWhat, like over 15 minutes?
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