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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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According to Alec via Indiegogo Axanar is moving to Atlanta, Georgia.

"...Axanar Productions will be relocating to Atlanta, Georgia at the end of this month. Atlanta is the third largest film production city in the US and our new facility will cost approximately 25% of our current lease, giving us both the time and space required to finish production of Axanar. The 6,000sf of space is in fantastic condition and is fully air conditioned, a must for shooting in hot Atlanta summers. We are very excited about the new facility and think it will make a great long-term home for both Axanar and the other Star Trek and science fiction projects we have planned."

I am sure that there are hundreds of locations in Atlanta they could use, but I wonder if they will use the same place where Star Trek First Frontier was filmed. Is Marietta considered part of Atlanta?
 
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It is to be expected that as their dreams are finally fully crashed and burned, some Axanar supporters would seek to project the villain role onto the "other".

I agree, just leave it where it sits. Know it for what it is, a projection.

We all know Carlos' content is NOT false, and that the overwhelming majority of statements from Axanar about substantive matters of budget, ownership, plans, nonprofit status, etc, etc. WERE at best extremely misleading, and that questions were viciously suppressed.

So there's no call to give energy to the blame projection some people will want to engage in for a while. There's no "this is true but so is that" when it comes to what the great majority of the money was chosen to be spent on. It was spent on a studio and/or employment perks. That killed it. That's all.
 
And Another Thing, Contests!
I don't care who you are, when you worked on a project and helped to make a credible production only to see award after award go to the team that collected the most money, hired the best actors, director, writers, editor, camera operator and VFX team....... as opposed to the fan club that basically passed the hat around to upgrade a few light bulbs on the set, I'm just not sure all the people that run conventions have caught up with this.
Axanar makes a $10,000, no wait a $70,000, no wait a $130,000 twenty two minute awesome professionally produced product and it gets judged right next to something produced with $200 out of pocket traditionally fan produced product.
Yeah, Money can't buy you love but you can love the Type of Trek money buys as demonstrated when Axanar's Prelude takes home something like 17 awards right off the bat.
Any Thoughts?
Better minds than mine probably need to work on a solution to this but a lot of traditional Fan Film Clubs without the best equipment or training seem to get left out in the cold when receiving honors they worked just as hard for.
Perhaps judging should also include a division between productions produced with funds raised on a social platform separately than self funded productions.
I know many of the people who create fan films with only the talent they have within their group don't say anything about this, because everyone knows the $100,000 product is like General Motors entering the local Soap Box Derby and is going to have the better product.
(In my best Bones voice) Money often defeats honest effort unless honest effort is very, very good.
 
Krandor said:
Well it's official. Axanar is moving to Atlanta. Dangit.. I don't want them here.
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Alec also said, "...we move into our Atlanta facility May 6-7th and if you are an Atlanta resident, we would love your help there. In fact, the team of another Star Trek fan film is coming over to help us unload the trucks and move in!"

If you change your mind and want to help Alec with unloading the trucks his email is alec@axanarproductions.com ;)

Just don't drop anything! :biggrin:
 
Philip Guyott said:
Alec also said, "...we move into our Atlanta facility May 6-7th and if you are an Atlanta resident, we would love your help there. In fact, the team of another Star Trek fan film is coming over to help us unload the trucks and move in!"

If you change your mind and want to help Alec with unloading the trucks his email is alec@axanarproductions.com ;)

Just don't drop anything! :biggrin:
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Will be interesting to find out, who the final supporter amongst the fan film community is.
And regarding the drop: Doesn't matter, because it all will be filmed via green screen, I'm sure.
 
I wonder just how long this has been the plan for. We know Alec already had his studio manager in Atlanta, and as has been pointed out this move seemed an open secret for a while.

I have to wonder if Alec ever actually ever expected his Indiegogo to succeed. He clearly seems to have been more than ready to abandon ship.

It'll be interesting to see who goes with Alec to Ares Studio v2.
 
I've come to the mindset of: Let him try to produce this thing if he can. He's going to surprise one sect of fandom either way. I'm never going to donate to him but give him his rope. Just enough to do the job or hang himself with it. If that means moving to Atlanta, so be it.
 
I suppose they can find a way to keep enlisting new innocent people using the good will of the Star Trek name, and keep riding that wave.

I think the IP holders just have to get him enjoined down to the last brass tack from raising money on the name of Trek.

They thought they had that, but he found a way around it by saying the latest fundraiser was for a generic studio and then inviting donors to "vote" that it was for Axanar.

This is not that different from claiming legitimacy to take many hundreds of thousands of Trek-sourced wealth and put it into a for profit studio, because the donors "voted" that he should do it by donating to the campaigns that had a studio in it.

Clearly, this strategy of indirectly making runs at the Trek cash value by inviting donors to endorse illegal/settlement prohibited fundraising activities is just going to continue until it is utterly stopped.

Studios, are you listening? Crowdsourcing was manipulated to fund Axanar almost immediately after you spent a year+ getting an agreement that it would not be used even for their fan production.

You have grounds to extract a stronger prohibition now. You could go back to them and say look, the suit could be reopened unless you agree to stricter terms with financial penalties about what it means to not raise funds based on the Trek IP/market value.

You probably should consider it.
 
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Campe98 said:
I've come to the mindset of: Let him try to produce this thing if he can. He's going to surprise one sect of fandom either way. I'm never going to donate to him but give him his rope. Just enough to do the job or hang himself with it. If that means moving to Atlanta, so be it.
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Now he has to build a whole new studio before he can start the actual movie.
 
Krandor said:
Now he has to build a whole new studio before he can start the actual movie.
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That's part of the process he's chosen to follow. He could simply opt to rent an existing space and get to work. But before he even does that, he'll need to raise the money to build the new studio (without utilizing the Trek name), build the studio and then privately raise the money for the film.

You see why I'm saying "whatever" at this point?

2019. At the very earliest, they may start production.
 
feek61 said:
The new facility is only 25% the cost of the the old one; where is he going to get the 25% since he is out-of-money? I foresee a new crowd-funding campaign on the horizon!
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You're looking at it all wrong.
Think of it this way, he is saving the donors $1,050,000 dollars on the next scam....er...ah.. um ..... I mean awesome Star Trek Professionally produced movie.
 
dmac said:
And Another Thing, Contests!
I don't care who you are, when you worked on a project and helped to make a credible production only to see award after award go to the team that collected the most money, hired the best actors, director, writers, editor, camera operator and VFX team....... as opposed to the fan club that basically passed the hat around to upgrade a few light bulbs on the set, I'm just not sure all the people that run conventions have caught up with this.

Axanar makes a $10,000, no wait a $70,000, no wait a $130,000 twenty two minute awesome professionally produced product and it gets judged right next to something produced with $200 out of pocket traditionally fan produced product.
Yeah, Money can't buy you love but you can love the Type of Trek money buys as demonstrated when Axanar's Prelude takes home something like 17 awards right off the bat.
Any Thoughts?
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Daaa-hh-mmm. When I see it written out like that.... damm.


Oh, yeah. This 'awards' thing inarguably needs restructuring.


dmac said:
Any Thoughts?
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Who sets up these categories anyway? Is there a central source? Is it at the discretion of each hosted competition? If a known associate of a competing film is allowed to provide winner plagues will they have a biased advantage?

dmac said:
like General Motors entering the local Soap Box Derby and is going to have the better product.
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