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Does anyone recall the 80' "War of Worlds" tv show?

I watched the first season because it was paired up with Star Trek and other syndicated shows on my local affiliate as 'Sci-Fi Saturdays'. Then in the second season it moved to another station at a different time where it was constantly interrupted by sports or infomercials, so I never finished watching it beyond the second season premier/retool.
I remember reading the novelization of the pilot episode a couple of months before it aired and being disappointed when I finally watched it. It was nothing like the novel. The book was in fact closer in tone to what the second season was like than the first season with Earth still recovering from the invasion 30+ years later, with large swaths of the planet barely inhabitable and pollution and food and water shortages/rationing. People still remembered the invasion happening; there wasn't this collective amnesia that there was in the show. Dr. Clayton Forrester was still alive and the one confined to the mental institution and Harrison Blackwood was his protege. About the only thing that was similar was the aliens taking over the people and the war machines being kept in the warehouse.
 
Thanks for the information about the novel, Darren.

From your description, it almost sounds as though that might have been the original premise "pitched", but at some point, it was reworked into the frugally budgeted "Invaders" rehash that finally appeared on TV.

On the other hand, the author might have reacted with, "You gotta' be kidding me!" to and "outline" that did resemble what aired, and instead heavily rewrote the material to better dovetail" with the 1953 movie.

I really wish someone could dig up some "behind the scenes" development discussion so we'd finally learn just what the bloody h3ll really happened.
 
Thanks for the information about the novel, Darren.

From your description, it almost sounds as though that might have been the original premise "pitched", but at some point, it was reworked into the frugally budgeted "Invaders" rehash that finally appeared on TV.

On the other hand, the author might have reacted with, "You gotta' be kidding me!" to and "outline" that did resemble what aired, and instead heavily rewrote the material to better dovetail" with the 1953 movie.

I really wish someone could dig up some "behind the scenes" development discussion so we'd finally learn just what the bloody h3ll really happened.
I think that may be the case because I recall the characters stating in the first season that the Martian Invasion DID happen (IE they basically said the events depicted in the 1953 film version ACTUALLY HAPPENED in their world); but somehow 30+ years later, the entire world - except for the main characters - somehow forgot about it.:rofl:
 
Er...the novelization discussed here doesn't match my recollections, and I looked at it again not all that long ago...

That said, this is "to the best of my recollections"...

I don't remember anything about food shortages or other dystopian elements, though I may have glossed over that.

I tend to agree that the collective amnesia element was missing from the novelization, but the novelization involved few enough people that it's somewhat hard to say for certain.

Forrester is alive and not in a mental institution (though Sylvia is), but he is in frail health and dies during the events of the book. Harrison indeed was his protégé.
 
Thanks for the information about the novel, Darren.

From your description, it almost sounds as though that might have been the original premise "pitched", but at some point, it was reworked into the frugally budgeted "Invaders" rehash that finally appeared on TV.

On the other hand, the author might have reacted with, "You gotta' be kidding me!" to and "outline" that did resemble what aired, and instead heavily rewrote the material to better dovetail" with the 1953 movie.

I really wish someone could dig up some "behind the scenes" development discussion so we'd finally learn just what the bloody h3ll really happened.
Was there nothing like that on the DVD release?
 
I enjoyed it as a kid (at least Season 1). But I actually tried to rewatch a couple of episodes last year (you can find all of Season 1 on Youtube), and as an adult now, I find the dialog to be terrible. Though maybe it's the actors giving a stilted delivery, I don't know.
 
For me it was my gateway into the War of the Worlds. It used to be shown after midnight on the uk channel ITV after midnight on weekends. I remember being frustrated that we never saw what the aliens look like. Season 2 seemed like a step up in giving more of an action packed show.
 
So was the second season bad, or was it just the fact that it was such a drastic change from the first that turns people off?

Both. Neither season was great. The first season was more of a horror show using aliens. Suddenly, the second season killed off two characters, replacing them with the Highlander, and completely changed the setting, tone, and aliens. IMO, for the better. Instead of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" horror, it became a dystopian near future science-fiction show.
 
I believe Christopher Bennett still has a bunch of reviews of the series on his blog....

ETA: Here you go! https://christopherlbennett.wordpress.com/tag/war-of-the-worlds/

Thanks for posting that -- saves me the trouble. ;) But it only covers the first season -- I couldn't bring myself to rewatch the second.


The one thing I liked about the series was the opening credits score from season one, preferably without Jared Martin's narration. It just "fit" the war machine sequences so well, sounding a bit like an homage to Holst's "Mars, the Bringer of War", but still its own thing.

Yeah, the main title theme was a pretty cool Holst homage, but I liked the end title music even better. A different version of it was featured as in-story music in an episode about the aliens putting subliminal programming in music -- the composer they used was played by the show's actual composer, Billy Thorpe. Although I didn't care for any of Thorpe's incidental scoring of the show, which was mostly just ominous atmospherics and scare stings.


What killed the show for me was the second season. It was like somebody wanted to make a totally different show and just spliced it into the series so they could get it on the air. Killed off the best characters, changed the premise and went overboard with the dystopian world. They even added a new evil alien species who was supposed to be controlling the first ones

Actually, the Morthren were supposed to be another faction of the same species that was called Mor-Taxians in season 1, but using a different technology to disguise themselves as humans and having a different culture built around worship of a thing called "the Immortal."


So was the second season bad, or was it just the fact that it was such a drastic change from the first that turns people off?

One -- yes, it was just plain bad. The first half of the season was barely watchable -- so relentlessly grim and unpleasant and barely coherent. It got somewhat better in the latter half when Jim Trombetta took over as story editor, and actually managed to get one or two decent episodes in there (particularly one involving the birthday celebration of the leading lady's teen daughter, with some rather nice stuff about trying to build a positive experience within such a dark, despairing world). But the series finale was terrible, a total cop-out that forced a happy ending by nonsensically retconning everything about the aliens going back to the original movie.

Two -- the problem with the changes wasn't that they were drastic, it's that they were bad. The first season wasn't all that good, lord knows, but the second season tore apart and trampled over everything that was good about it. The best thing about the first season was the rapport among the four lead actors. It was always fun to watch them even when their material was bad (as it usually was), because they just had such great chemistry together. And then the second season killed off half of that ensemble and replaced them with the charisma void that is Adrian Paul. And they killed off the most popular character, Col. Ironhorse, in a way that was so wrong and callously destructive that I cried in rage and frustration when it happened -- not in the good way, like it really moved me, but out of anger at how wrong it was as a way for a TV show to treat a character.

It's also pretty clear that a lot of the changes were motivated by something rather ugly. Both the nonwhite cast members were killed off and the white ones were kept. All the new cast members were white. The Native American cast member was killed off despite being the most popular character -- and new producer Frank Mancuso Jr. claimed he didn't realize Ironhorse was so popular. How can you take over a show and not look into audience response? He also claimed that he'd killed off Norton because the team had lost their home base and would be on the run, so a man in a wheelchair couldn't manage -- but that was a flat-out lie, because he promptly moved the team into a new home base where they stayed for the rest of the season. Also, Harrison Blackwood, who had been charmingly eccentric and weird in season 1, was reduced to a bland cipher whose only personality trait was growing a beard. Meanwhile, the weird-looking aliens who spoke in subtitled noises were replaced with aliens who looked like attractive white humans and spoke English. Not only did they expunge everyone nonwhite, they expunged everything that was "different" in any way. That's not just bad television, it's morally repugnant.


Thanks for the information about the novel, Darren.

From your description, it almost sounds as though that might have been the original premise "pitched", but at some point, it was reworked into the frugally budgeted "Invaders" rehash that finally appeared on TV.

On the other hand, the author might have reacted with, "You gotta' be kidding me!" to and "outline" that did resemble what aired, and instead heavily rewrote the material to better dovetail" with the 1953 movie.

Both of those sound plausible, so it might've been a little of both. The show had to go in one direction for the sake of budget (and also out of the bizarre need many TV shows have to pretend they're in "our world" even though we all know they aren't), but Dillard as a novelizer was certainly capable of filling in blanks when things didn't make sense to her. (In her Star Trek V novelization, she added some business about Sybok upgrading the Enterprise's shields to allow it to pass through the Great Barrier -- though she didn't explain how it got to the center of the galaxy in 20 minutes -- and in her ST VI novelization, she added backstory of Carol Marcus being injured in a recent Klingon attack to explain why Kirk was so uncharacteristically hateful toward the Klingons.)


I think that may be the case because I recall the characters stating in the first season that the Martian Invasion DID happen (IE they basically said the events depicted in the 1953 film version ACTUALLY HAPPENED in their world); but somehow 30+ years later, the entire world - except for the main characters - somehow forgot about it.:rofl:

There was a handwave in episode 2 about how alien abductions are associated with memory loss, so that aliens must have some weird amnesia-inducing effect on the human mind. Although that was in combination with the pilot's "People just couldn't handle the reality so they chose to forget" explanation. It didn't make any sense, of course, but at least they tried to justify it.
 
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I'm not sure but was there one episode were there was this bad human guy who had a alien gun and it shot nuclear powered bullets? I also recall a episode were a pregant women gets taken over by a alien and then the alien starts to worry about the baby. Also a food shortage ep. Also a alien takes over a cop. I think that is about all I really recall about the show in terms of, indivual stories.

Jason
 
IMO the best two shows were with John Colicos played the rogue Alien 'Quinn'- trapped inside a human since 1953, a little crazy and willing to play all sides against each other.
 
I'm not sure but was there one episode were there was this bad human guy who had a alien gun and it shot nuclear powered bullets? I also recall a episode were a pregant women gets taken over by a alien and then the alien starts to worry about the baby. Also a food shortage ep. Also a alien takes over a cop.

The only one of those I remember is the baby episode, which was pretty ghastly -- it's somewhere in my blog reviews. The "alien takes over a cop" story must've been first-season, but there was probably more than one instance where that happened. No, wait, I think the nuclear-bullet thing rings a bell -- maybe the first-season finale? "Food shortage" sounds like a season 2 thing.

IMO the best two shows were with John Colicos played the rogue Alien 'Quinn'- trapped inside a human since 1953, a little crazy and willing to play all sides against each other.

His first episode was terrific. Colicos was great as always, and finally having an extended debate between one of the good guys and one of the aliens over their respective agendas and points of view was refreshing. But Quinn's second episode was pretty bad and there was no good motivation for his role in it. (The most memorable thing in it was that Quinn revealed he had been "Deep Throat" in the Watergate scandal.)
 
The only one of those I remember is the baby episode, which was pretty ghastly -- it's somewhere in my blog reviews. The "alien takes over a cop" story must've been first-season, but there was probably more than one instance where that happened. No, wait, I think the nuclear-bullet thing rings a bell -- maybe the first-season finale? "Food shortage" sounds like a season 2 thing.



His first episode was terrific. Colicos was great as always, and finally having an extended debate between one of the good guys and one of the aliens over their respective agendas and points of view was refreshing. But Quinn's second episode was pretty bad and there was no good motivation for his role in it. (The most memorable thing in it was that Quinn revealed he had been "Deep Throat" in the Watergate scandal.)

I think the food shortage was a season 1 ep because the one thing I sort of recall is a scene set at some ocean dock were I guess someone might have been shipping food. The thing though is the scene was shot during the day and it was sunny. I don't think they ever showed the daytime in season 2.

Jason
 
The first year of the show was fucking brilliant - funniest thing on TV at the time.

The second year was...I dunno, I watched the first and last episodes and was bored.
 
I think the food shortage was a season 1 ep because the one thing I sort of recall is a scene set at some ocean dock were I guess someone might have been shipping food. The thing though is the scene was shot during the day and it was sunny. I don't think they ever showed the daytime in season 2.

Oh, yeah. That was "The Good Samaritan," the episode with Alex Cord as the guy trying to develop a radiation-resistant food grain to end world hunger, with the aliens taking him over to poison it. My review is here. The second one covered in that review, "Epiphany," might be the "alien takes over a cop" episode you're thinking of.

Also, the first Quinn episode and the "alien baby" episode are covered here, and, yes, the "atomic bullets" were in the season finale.
 
I enjoyed elements of the first season... the chemistry between the characters, the creepy vibe from the aliens, the manner in which they take over a human body. I also thought it was a nice touch to have a line of dialogue from later in an episode voiced over in the dark right after the theme song ended. Had a nice horror vibe. I also thought it interesting having every title in season 1 have some kind of biblical reference.
 
I watched the first season because it was paired up with Star Trek and other syndicated shows on my local affiliate as 'Sci-Fi Saturdays'. Then in the second season it moved to another station at a different time where it was constantly interrupted by sports or infomercials, so I never finished watching it beyond the second season premier/retool.
I remember reading the novelization of the pilot episode a couple of months before it aired and being disappointed when I finally watched it. It was nothing like the novel. The book was in fact closer in tone to what the second season was like than the first season with Earth still recovering from the invasion 30+ years later, with large swaths of the planet barely inhabitable and pollution and food and water shortages/rationing. People still remembered the invasion happening; there wasn't this collective amnesia that there was in the show. Dr. Clayton Forrester was still alive and the one confined to the mental institution and Harrison Blackwood was his protege. About the only thing that was similar was the aliens taking over the people and the war machines being kept in the warehouse.

I have this book and have read it several times. I don't remember anything about this being mentioned. And Forrester was not in a mental institution (although Sylvia was). In fact, aside from the inclusion of Clayton Forrester and some POV stuff about the alien invaders...it was very close to the televised pilot.

Sure you're thinking of the right book?
 
I got a huge kick out of the War of the Worlds series. It was so frustrating, though...because it had so much potential and could, at times, be great...but it was more often gawd-awful.

That said, I own season 1 and season 2 on DVD and re-watch the better episodes every once in a while.
 
I also thought it interesting having every title in season 1 have some kind of biblical reference.

Almost every one. "My Soul to Keep" is from a common children's prayer ("Now I lay me down to sleep...") recorded in the 1680 New England Primer.

And my issue with the Biblical theme to the titles is that it had no relevance at all to the show. None of the characters were religious, and the story was never presented as any kind of religious allegory. Heck, the original movie had more religious content, with the heroes taking refuge in a church and the implication that the aliens' death by disease was divine providence -- an idea the series's very premise pretty much undermines, since that "death" didn't stick after all. So the Biblical titles just seemed like a random bit of pretentiousness.
 
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