They were both financially successful. Ultimately, that's what matters most in this business.
If DIS can make good money through cerebral storytelling, then that's good enough reason to make it so.
Kor
Will an old school Trek episode be accepted by modern audiences?
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If DIS can make good money through cerebral storytelling, then that's good enough reason to make it so.
Kor
I want details. Was it anyone you know? This is hilarious.
Few of the really good TOS stories are terribly cerebral. "Amok Time" is not, neither are "City On The Edge Of Forever," nor "Balance of Terror," nor "The Doomsday Machine," etc.
Moral? Well, most stories are, to some degree or another. Not all are about ethical quandaries, which is what people often mean when they say "morality tale."
Moral? Well, most stories are, to some degree or another. Not all are about ethical quandaries, which is what people often mean when they say "morality tale."
Yes it could and it is also why I believe Trek works better on TV then in the movies. In the movies you need the big blockbuster but a TV series gives you an option to explore different things week to week. You can have a measure of a man one week and a few weeks later have a Best of Both Worlds.
So I tibnk and hope that we have some of both kinds of episodes.
So I tibnk and hope that we have some of both kinds of episodes.
To answer the OP title question - yes, depending on the type.
Some "classic" TOS episodes wouldn't fly, such as "A Piece of the Action."
An episode like "Balance of Terror" would be very popular in today's TV climate.
As for the implied question in the OP.... a "preachy" episode would be very poorly received, but an episode that teaches a moral lesson, if done carefully would be welcome.
Some "classic" TOS episodes wouldn't fly, such as "A Piece of the Action."
An episode like "Balance of Terror" would be very popular in today's TV climate.
As for the implied question in the OP.... a "preachy" episode would be very poorly received, but an episode that teaches a moral lesson, if done carefully would be welcome.
Well, obviously there was a scene where Picard explains how humanity has evolved beyond 20th century views on rape... we just never saw it
It's totally on the Blu-Ray though
Possibly.
But I'm not going to watch a Trek series in 2017 for 1960's or 80's style storytelling.
(Unless it's Star Trek Continues)
But I'm not going to watch a Trek series in 2017 for 1960's or 80's style storytelling.
(Unless it's Star Trek Continues)
Me too. We also have "the Expanse". Star Trek has a tough come back, if they want to portrait the show as "The future of humanity". Because our current perception about space travel and the future have change a lot since the end of Star Trek Enterprise, some time ago.
Long time ago, when I was a boy, I considered Star Trek as believe-able science fiction. I thought that in the future, space travel would be like what Star Trek told me. With artificial gravity, warp engine, etc. But it's different now. newer Space Genre shows have better vision on what happen in the future. Gravity, the Expanse, The Martian, etc. They changed us a lot. So how can we consider Star Trek technology as "future science" anymore? the previously established Trek Technology has become LOTR model of technology. They have become a fantasy.
Arthur C Clarke: Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it
*Puts his feet up, knocks back a drink to celebrate the greatest Sci-Fi-writing loophole ever, and chortles at his own genius.*
*Puts his feet up, knocks back a drink to celebrate the greatest Sci-Fi-writing loophole ever, and chortles at his own genius.*
"Old School" Trek was an action/adventure show with some very original sci-fi concepts driving it and an occasional tendency to have allegorical storytelling with a philosophical underpinning.
Very rarely (never) was it a bunch of people sitting around sipping tea and contemplating humanity's place in the universe.
Not sure where that perception comes from.
Very rarely (never) was it a bunch of people sitting around sipping tea and contemplating humanity's place in the universe.
Not sure where that perception comes from.
TNG
"Tea, Earl Grey, hot.
Hilarious post considering StarTreks future is plausible while the Expanses is an impossible fantasy.
I guess collective perception of our future has deteriorated significantly in the last ten years due to all these gritty fantasy shows. Boy did they do a number on unsuspecting folks, making it very difficult to popularize realistic science fiction.
Also, the Martian is set in the present.
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So is Star trek. Sorry.
Star Trek universe has aspects of it that I would deem impossible, most of these can be isolated to specific story lines and episodes. There are still many stand alone episodes that explore plausible scenarios taking place in the future. None of the core technologies are fundamentally impossible and all have been explored at length in hypothetical terms by credible physicists.
The world of the Expanse is fundamentally flawed, the setting, the premise, makes zero sense. It's as much fantasy as Star Wars. Star Trek is Science Fiction.
I agree with whoever said both Movies were overrated (and the acting amateur as well). God I dislike Chris Pine as an actor. He has a spoilt child's set to his face. So pleased I didn't pay to watch the first one and ashamed I bought the DVD of number two because I had heard the reviews were good.
There's a trap in trying to redo something. You apply the jaded sensibilities of the now with the innocence of the then. Think of the remake of Space Family Robinson. Okay the original was corny as hell but it was colorful and captured the wonder of the times. The remake was dark, you could barely distinguish what was going on. The performances were heavy and labored. Yes the original was campy but man it was hilarious.
Discovery needs to hit on that essence of wonder and adventure without taking itself too seriously. Modern audiences are experienced at seeing a lecture a mile off. Just ease up and give us an adventure. Production values have way improved, bring it on.
There's a trap in trying to redo something. You apply the jaded sensibilities of the now with the innocence of the then. Think of the remake of Space Family Robinson. Okay the original was corny as hell but it was colorful and captured the wonder of the times. The remake was dark, you could barely distinguish what was going on. The performances were heavy and labored. Yes the original was campy but man it was hilarious.
Discovery needs to hit on that essence of wonder and adventure without taking itself too seriously. Modern audiences are experienced at seeing a lecture a mile off. Just ease up and give us an adventure. Production values have way improved, bring it on.
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