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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 2

I was just thinking of a line in Apollo 13, where one of the characters are explaining something about halfway there and moon does the rest of the job for you so I was just thinking if their were engine troubles that would help the ship get back.

That's not how it works. The entire orbital trajectory is shaped by the interaction of the gravitational fields of both the Earth and the Moon. Orbit, by definition, is an unpowered trajectory shaped by the effect of gravity on a free-falling body. The Apollo spacecraft fired their engines only a few times in the course of their journeys, "burns" that changed their trajectory to put them into orbit or take them out of orbit, plus occasional short burns for midcourse correction en route. Mostly they let gravity do the work. Here's a diagram of Apollo 13's voyage with the engine burns (corrections to finesse their course and injections to change from one orbital path to another) called out.


A leader surley must have a degree of knowledge, what does Sara know about commanding a ship from the future and temporal mechanics.

No. A leader gets knowledge from her advisors, like Kirk gets information from Spock, or like Jack O'Neill gets information from Daniel Jackson and Sam Carter. Or, for that matter, like Oliver Queen gets information from Felicity and Curtis, and Barry Allen gets information from the STAR Labs brain trust. The leader is not necessarily the smartest person in the room. What a leader needs to know is how to lead people, how to get them to unite behind a common goal, how to win their trust and loyalty, how to bring out the best in them. Rip failed at that, and Sara succeeded.


The writers have always rushed this aspect of the show, the technology must be so COMPLEX and somehow Jax became chief engineer with zero training because he works on cars back on Earth and Sara now commands the ship.

"Zero training?" Have you been paying attention at all? It was established at the start of the season that Rip had been training Jax for months during the break between seasons, teaching him how to repair and rebuild every system aboard the ship, because Rip anticipated that he might not be around forever and that someone would need to take over just in case.
 
No. A leader gets knowledge from her advisors, like Kirk gets information from Spock

Well Kirk does has full Starfleet training from the Academy.

Zero training?" Have you been paying attention at all?

Nice talking to you too.

In season 1, Jax quickly became Scotty out of the blue, however the line in season 2 I grant that line does help this season. It would of been nice to see some of the training. Honestly I had forgotten that line from the opening line am sorry about my shit appalling memory.
 
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Obviously the engines had to be online in order for them to get to Earth at all. I don't recall, but maybe the life support systems were damaged and they needed to get into an oxygen atmosphere before their air ran out.
That was the part I was talking about where because they couldn't get the engines back on line they were being pulled back to Earth. From lunar orbit. In a few minutes.
 
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At this rate, all Fantasy/Sci Fi big names will end up being saved or inspired by the Legends :lol:
 
Everyone wants preciousssss Spear of Destiny.

Boo! How could Mick be so easily swayed by Past-Snart who's not even the real Snart? The original guy died for the team doing something heroic, and Mick was so quick to join the bad guys. All that good he did would've meant nothing. Maybe there's hope for him yet on the next episode.
 
I loved tonight's episode, which worked a LOT better when it came to doing the whole "meta-reference inspiration/homage" thing than Raiders of the Lost Art did, largely because it relied less on the Legends directly inspiring Tolkien and more on them impacting his life in a way that was already consistent with his background and experiences, but served to only enhance and enrich his world.

I do wish they hadn't done the whole "Mick takes a million steps backward" thing, but it wasn't an out-of-character action for him to take, so I don't really have any issues with it beyond it being something that I personally wouldn't have done had I been writing for the show.

Amaya telling Sara about asking Gideon to show her the future was an interesting direction in which to take that particular plot thread, but I was surprised that Sara didn't admonish her for making that choice.

I like that they've meshed Rip back into the group as a contributing member rather than the leader, because he never really worked for me during Season 1 filling that role due to the abrasive nature of his personality and his own personal demons, so using him as just another member of the team helps to minimize the annoying aspects of the character and Arthur Darvill's portrayal of him.

I'm glad we finally got to see Snart show up as a full-fledged member of the Legion of Doom since it was one of the things that we knew about the season going into it, and consequently was something I was personally really looking forward to seeing, but I couldn't help but feeling like Wentworth Miller was playing the role far more sinisterly than we've ever seen before, even during his early appearances on The Flash, making me wonder just from what time period Eobard plucked him.

Next week's penultimate episode looks interesting with its Altered Reality plotline, especially coming one week after tonight's Flash episode, wherein we also saw an alternate reality of sorts, and I can't wait to see what's going to happen next.
 
I think Mick's decision was less about Snart and more about him wanting to fix his past. He's deeply traumatized by what he did to his family, and this could be his shot to change his entire life from the ground up.

This should be a good opportunity to finally give Mick some closure on his past. Hopefully the writers will make good use of the opportunity.
 
Was it just me, or was the gold cup that Mick wanted to grab the same cup that Walter Donovan chose (poorly) in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?
 
I thought of this...

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Quite possibly Billy Zane's greatest movie!

(Yes, Billy was in Titanic, but as a minor character, although the character (Cal Hockly) who Mr. Zane portrayed was cited in a recent episode of American Housewife as the Spirit Guide of the American Housewife's asshole 11 year old son.)
 
Boo! How could Mick be so easily swayed by Past-Snart who's not even the real Snart? The original guy died for the team doing something heroic, and Mick was so quick to join the bad guys.

Snart and Mick were best friends and partners in crime for years before they became Legends -- even before they became Flash Rogues. This "past-Snart" is the same Snart that Mick was partnered with in the past, before either of them reformed. He's a reminder of the life that Mick had before, when he could do what he wanted and take what he wanted without having to worry about anyone else's rules or disapproval. And best of all, he's alive again, without the heroic "idiocy" he developed that led him to sacrifice himself for Mick -- something Mick feels guilty about because he doesn't think he's worth it.

Although, as usual, the time-travel logic doesn't make sense. If scaring George Lucas out of film school changed Ray and Nate's pasts in a matter of hours, how come Snart being removed from the timeline hasn't erased everyone's memory of him being a Legend? Maybe being taken outside of time insulates against timeline changes somehow, although that wasn't what was suggested last season when the team abducted their own younger selves and had a time limit to get them back before the new history set in.


I do wish they hadn't done the whole "Mick takes a million steps backward" thing, but it wasn't an out-of-character action for him to take, so I don't really have any issues with it beyond it being something that I personally wouldn't have done had I been writing for the show.

I'm sort of wondering if Mick doesn't have a deeper plan -- maybe he's playing double agent, hoping to save Leonard but then screw over the rest of the Legion.


Amaya telling Sara about asking Gideon to show her the future was an interesting direction in which to take that particular plot thread, but I was surprised that Sara didn't admonish her for making that choice.

She forgave Martin for creating the "aberration" of his daughter, and she was tempted to change time for personal gain herself, so she's grown to understand such temptations. And Amaya needed empathy, not chastisement.


I'm glad we finally got to see Snart show up as a full-fledged member of the Legion of Doom since it was one of the things that we knew about the season going into it

He's also the only member of the current "Legion of Doom" who was also part of the original Super Friends version, so it's about time he showed up. (The others were Luthor, Brainiac, Bizarro, Toyman, Riddler, Scarecrow, Cheetah, Giganta, Gorilla Grodd, Sinestro, Solomon Grundy, and Black Manta. Grodd's the only one of those who's an established Arrowverse Earth-1 villain, but of course The Flash had other plans for him.)
 
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