Yep! And Dave Cockrum and Barry Smith as well, to name just two.
So, was there a new ep last night? I was distracted by a sick cat and wasn't paying attention to TV.
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Yep! And Dave Cockrum and Barry Smith as well, to name just two.
So, was there a new ep last night? I was distracted by a sick cat and wasn't paying attention to TV.
No, apparently not. (I hope the cat gets better.)
Thanks! She's fine (knock on wood). Just needed to see the vet . . . twice in one day.
You have one of those cats.
You have one of those cats.
She's actually pretty low-maintenance most of the time, but she is nearly thirteen years old at this point so she needs some care and a special diet. (Plus, she was about due for her rabies booster shot, so we took care of that at the same time.)
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There won't be a new episode till the end of this month because of March Madness.
Wow... So Alice is not the most evil Cooper parent after all. She actually showed a human side for once.
What's kind of fun about this show is that the teenagers are more mature and level-headed than their parents. Pretty much all the problems in the show are the result of the parents' old business and conflicts and baggage, and the kids are just trying to cope with the fallout and fix everything with the Power of Friendship. It's a nice wish-fulfillment idea, that the younger generation can avoid the mistakes of the previous one and build a better world.
What's kind of fun about this show is that the teenagers are more mature and level-headed than their parents. Pretty much all the problems in the show are the result of the parents' old business and conflicts and baggage, and the kids are just trying to cope with the fallout and fix everything with the Power of Friendship. It's a nice wish-fulfillment idea, that the younger generation can avoid the mistakes of the previous one and build a better world.
Well stated, @Christopher.
I liked the fact that Archie rallied a few of his friends to work at his dad's construction site after the crew left at the last minute. I was thinking, could the construction crew just walk out like that? As contractors, didn't they have an obligation to Mr. Andrews to do their job, if not complete the project, unless there was an issue with compensation, working conditions, etc. other than getting a better offer, in this case, from the Blossoms? So one thing that's not clear to me ... was Jughead's dad involved in trying to sabotage Andrews' construction? It didn't seem like the Serpents were responsible because they even offered to help towards the end.
I could see how livid Alice was upon finding out what her husband had tried to do for Polly (get her an abortion). I felt sorry for Alice and Betty at the end when Polly decided she wanted to stay with the Blossoms.
I liked the fact that Archie rallied a few of his friends to work at his dad's construction site after the crew left at the last minute. I was thinking, could the construction crew just walk out like that? As contractors, didn't they have an obligation to Mr. Andrews to do their job, if not complete the project, unless there was an issue with compensation, working conditions, etc. other than getting a better offer, in this case, from the Blossoms? So one thing that's not clear to me ... was Jughead's dad involved in trying to sabotage Andrews' construction? It didn't seem like the Serpents were responsible because they even offered to help towards the end.
I could see how livid Alice was upon finding out what her husband had tried to do for Polly (get her an abortion). I felt sorry for Alice and Betty at the end when Polly decided she wanted to stay with the Blossoms.
No, it wasn't the Serpents, unless Jughead's dad was lying to Veronica's mom. Reading between the lines of their conversation, Hiram Lodge is pulling some strings from prison and got some hired muscle from Montreal to wreck Fred Andrews' construction site.
Yeah, Hiram was behind the thugs, according to F.P. (Jughead's dad). Either he's punishing Fred and Hermione for their affair, as F.P. suggested, or he's engaged in some kind of real-estate fraud that involves sabotaging his own construction project.
Hmm... Maybe there's some clue to Jason's murder located on the site of the former drive-in, and the construction work would risk uncovering it. Knowing this show, probably everything is connected to the murder somehow.
Hmm... Maybe there's some clue to Jason's murder located on the site of the former drive-in, and the construction work would risk uncovering it. Knowing this show, probably everything is connected to the murder somehow.
I know it's an ensemble show, and even called Riverdale. But does it bug anyone else Archie doesn't seem to be the main character (or even most interesting at this point?). Sure, when he was having the affair with the fake Miss Grundy he had a lot to do, but now with Jughead dating Betty and all the story lines with the parents, I feel like he's pushed into the background. I hope he gets some more to do soon.
Also, anyone have any theories on who killed Jason? I don't think it was the Serpents, the show is making that obvious. But I think they may know (or at least Jughead's dad does) who did it and are helping them cover it up.
Also, anyone have any theories on who killed Jason? I don't think it was the Serpents, the show is making that obvious. But I think they may know (or at least Jughead's dad does) who did it and are helping them cover it up.
I've seen comments about this on comics sites, and I gather that this has always kind of been Archie's role, to be the amiable-doofus everyman at the center of a cast of more colorful and eccentric characters.
I think he did get a fairly central role this week, what with his efforts to help his dad by getting the students to volunteer and then going to investigate the Serpents. Apparently it's a standard Archie character trait to try to do the right thing, but to go about it the wrong way and just screw things up worse.
I've never been as good at solving mystery stories as I'd like to be. I don't have a clue.
Since she was carted off the convent on the day of Jason's disappearance, that's impossible for one important reason -- Jason was tortured, then killed, then put on ice for two months, then dumped in the river. Polly, even though she was able to escape from the home, wouldn't have had anyplace to hold Jason, torture him for a week, and keep him cold.
The circumstances of Jason's death -- the torture, the cold storage -- rule out pretty much every teenaged character in the series.
Betty's dad, to me, is the leading suspect right now. I don't think he intended initially to murder Jason, but when Polly was snatched out of his reach (she was taken to the home on the day that Jason disappeared) and he was no longer able to force Polly to have an abortion, the only way he could be certain that Jason could never, ever do anything to Polly again was to torment him and, in anger or frustration (maybe he was torturing Jason to force him to stay away from Polly), kill him. Then, he put the body on ice, and eventually realized he had to get rid of it, hence dumping it in the river.
I was thinking the same, but maybe it's a little too obvious. Besides, why would FP and the Serpents be concerned with covering up their connection to Jason if there were no larger conspiracy involved? Although it could just be that they're afraid the investigation into his death will lead to the exposure of their drug operations or something.
There's also the TV logic that the murderer is usually the most prominent guest star, and I don't think Lochlyn Munro is that prominent an actor compared to some of the others. He's one of those perpetual Vancouver supporting actors who show up in everything but rarely in a central role.
I agree, he's probably too obvious. It's at the point now where when he comes on stage he might as well be waving a giant "Look at me, I have motive!" flag over his head. 
One issue, it's not clear that Jason's murder is a mystery that we, as the audience, are meant to be able to solve. Some mystery novels you can. Others you can't. I read both and generally prefer the latter, usually because I'll solve the former well before the characters do. Riverdale, to me, seems to have pushed the murder to the backburner -- it's not trotting out clues and suspects every episode anymore -- which leads me to think that, if Jason's murderer isn't blindingly obvious like Betty's dad, the series will pull out some unexpected (and unknown) character out of the hat. Or, like the Adena Watson case on Homicide, there will never be resolution to the case.
It occurs to me there's a strong meta reason why Betty's dad isn't the murderer -- Betty is the archetypal girl-next-door, and to have her father premeditatedly murder her sister's boyfriend would do severe damage to the character and her archetype.
One issue, it's not clear that Jason's murder is a mystery that we, as the audience, are meant to be able to solve. Some mystery novels you can. Others you can't. I read both and generally prefer the latter, usually because I'll solve the former well before the characters do. Riverdale, to me, seems to have pushed the murder to the backburner -- it's not trotting out clues and suspects every episode anymore -- which leads me to think that, if Jason's murderer isn't blindingly obvious like Betty's dad, the series will pull out some unexpected (and unknown) character out of the hat. Or, like the Adena Watson case on Homicide, there will never be resolution to the case.
It occurs to me there's a strong meta reason why Betty's dad isn't the murderer -- Betty is the archetypal girl-next-door, and to have her father premeditatedly murder her sister's boyfriend would do severe damage to the character and her archetype.
