In my eyes, it was like telling someone younger than you it was just a game and not a sexual experience. It was grossly irresponsible.
Trek's lowest moment
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In my eyes, it was like telling someone younger than you it was just a game and not a sexual experience. It was grossly irresponsible.
DS9's "The Emperors New Cloak". We're subjected to Mirror Kira's cold blooded killing of another Ferengi and juvenile lesbian innuedos between Mirror Kira and Mirror Leeta just because the writers thought it would be cool.
A low point for me was the episode 'Turnabout Intruder' from TOS.
The low point for me was when a pipe in the closet where I kept my DVDs burst. I'm about 93% certain J.J. snuck into my house a fiddled with the water pressure.
Generations is the movie I avoid. I can watch all the others including Nemesis but just can't get into Generations. That's my movie low point.
I do like all three of the reboot movies.
I do like all three of the reboot movies.
Really? I consider that one of the BEST and most realistic moments in Trek........
Odo and Kira's talk in the cupboard and the death of the Enterprise-D
But that was because Deanna was driving.
It's also one of the most cynical and morally bankrupt.
Like much of real life...........
Which is what precisely Trek seeks to overcome not revel in.
I refer you to Uhura in ST:IV.
I watch Star Trek not Eastenders (or the OC or Sunset Beach or whatever soap opera passes for real life in th US) or Housewives of Atlanta (having sat through much of that as it's on the room....it's actually not bad, though seems to take place in some kind of pocket universe.....)
You can think you're above it but at the heart of Trek is humanity, our strengths AND weaknesses.......Utopia may be the goal but we haven't reached it by the 23rd century and likely never will. Plus it would kinda be a boring show with no conflict or inner struggle.
The point of Trek isn't here and now it's the not here and not now but the here and now we want to be at.
I'm not interested in a Trek dominated by Greyish protagonists and a generally dark atmosphere.
And I'm sure as heck not interested in grimdark Warhammer 40K.
I'm not interested in a Trek dominated by Greyish protagonists and a generally dark atmosphere.
And I'm sure as heck not interested in grimdark Warhammer 40K.
Trek has some very specific frameworks in place for how we got there....it's a rare post post-apocalyptic dystopia utopia. Always was. There's stuff round the edges, but even TOS is portrayed as repeatedly 'better than now' including the humans.
I and many others never had that issue. Then you get the work of Michael Piller, and things like The Drumhead or The Offspring, or many of the other episodes.... maybe it's because a lot of TV , particularly imported shows from the US, is already alien to me, but I don't see the issue. Never have. And ideals are a good thing to have...even Ds9 never loses those. (Anyone else having keyboard issues on here when typing from an iPad? This has taken me minutes of the keyboard slowing or freezing or reloaded...and I get a big blank spot at the top of every page.)
Grimdark I see not realistic... it's a sop, and cynical.
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