Only by a segment of fandom. It was never stated in canon, and since no one ever disproved the intent, once they were shown to have casings, the majority of fans responded with "Yeah, that makes sense."
What Sets the Enterprise Did and Did Not Need
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The galley.
The servicing room beneath the Hangar Deck would have been nice.
One thing I'm surprised they did build: the service crawlway in "That Which Survives" where the antimatter fuel flow can be interrupted. The existing Jefferies tube set could have sufficed.
One thing I'm surprised they did build: the service crawlway in "That Which Survives" where the antimatter fuel flow can be interrupted. The existing Jefferies tube set could have sufficed.
I thought this was the TOS-era equivalent of what would later be called a warp core: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Constitution_original_engineering2.jpg
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Nobody ever heard of a warp core until long after the show was canceled. Everybody figured the nacelles were the main thing, and then you just needed control panels and a dilithium crystal chamber to channel the power through.
In the Franz Joseph Blueprints, that's just one of the impulse engines.
TNG's Engineering is the same set as the one from the TOS films, isn't it?
That can't be. I heard somewhere that they saved money on Star Trek VI by using the TNG engine room, which was noticeably different than previous refit engineering sets. Correct me if I'm mixed up.
I'm pretty sure it was part of TMP set. The clear-floor upper level platforms around a vertical shaft look the same, but TNG substituted a core with what looked like neon light rings.
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x01/farpoint_hd_064.jpg
Those are as much retcons as the photon torpedo. Warp core as a term was not invented until TNG. From what I've read of Jefferies intent, everything was to be contained in the engines themselves. This is why Kirk said to jettison the nacelles in The Apple. Memory Alpha states it's unclear if Kirk meant the nacelles or the entire stardrive section (another retcon term).
I'm not opposed to the retcon... I can go either way.
About 15 feet or so. I visited James Cawley's reproductions of the Desilu TOS sets at Ticonderoga, NY this past October, and you can get a feel for how large they really were there. I wrote about my trip there here. You can see in one of my photos the engineering section shot from a 3/4 view which gives you a better idea of the scale.
Thanks, I thought they were much shorter than that. I would love visit that recreation too. Unfortunately, I don't think they're doing those visits right now.
Mr Awe
I know it's a seasonal thing, so yeah, they may still be closed for the winter. I saw on Facebook that they're selling tickets for tours conducted by Mike and Denise Okuda, though. I'd definitely get in on that if you're in the area. You'll probably see a few sets like McCoy's decompression chamber and the Jefferies Tube that weren't 100% complete when I went there. You can get information on what they're currently planning at http://startrektour.com/. I highly recommend it.
Thank you for sharing your visit with photos in Star Trek Boldly Goes To...Ticonderoga, N.Y.?
Had a chance to read about your visit. Sounds great! Thanks for sharing! That was a great write up!
They've started selling tickets again and I'm definitely going! Unfortunately the tickets with Koenig are sold out!
Mr Awe
Cool! I hope you have as great a time as I did!
From what I recall, the set that we saw in TMP had first been constructed for New Voyages in 75, and then it was upgraded for theatrical use, and then appeard in Star Trek II. Star Trek III you had that one section of Scotty in engineering right at the start of the movie saying that everything was almost fixed, but that didn't show the entire set, just a small wall that James Doohan was in front of for the one scene, otherwise engineering wasn't in the movie. Star Trek IV didn't feature the Enterprise's engineering. The set was then repurposed for TNG, with parts removed, repainted and rearranged. One thing retained from the TMP set in, essentialy, it's TMP appearance was the elevator that you see Picard and Worf riding down in Encounter At Farpoint that Kirk had earlier ridden in TMP. Star Trek V had Scotty roaming all over the Enterprise-A due to the deteriorated condition of that ship, so main engineering was not seen, although where Scotty bumps his head, as far as I can tell, was meant to be somewhere under main engineering. By the time Star Trek VI came around and an engineering set was needed (not to mention corridors), it was cheaper and easier to redress the TNG sets. And then later the set was modified to be Voyager's main engineering, and as I recall was finally struck and torn down in 2001 at the end of Voyager.
With the scene in Charlie X, where Kirk is showing Charlie the different throws, I always thought that there was a probably a pool and sauna, maybe a tennis court or a room that could double as either a tennis court or a squash court, nearby to make a full gymnasium complex.
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