First look at Klingons in 'Star Trek: Discovery'?
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Oh, so you're not trying to discuss Klingons, you have a personal grudge. Well, I won't be getting into an argument with you. I you can't handle someone having a different opinion, I don't know what to say
ST:TMP was a boring pile of junk and probably the worst of the TOS movies, so anything it had the idea for would be suspect even if it wasn't stupid.
Fuller also said there would be visual changes to existing aliens.
This is clearly a Klingon opera troupe. Melooooooootaaaaa!
Oh, so you're not trying to discuss Klingons, you have a personal grudge. Well, I won't be getting into an argument with you. I you can't handle someone having a different opinion, I don't know what to say
ST:TMP was a boring pile of junk and probably the worst of the TOS movies, so anything it had the idea for would be suspect even if it wasn't stupid.
There's nothing to discuss. If these are Klingons, they are Klingons. End of story. If you have issues with them, that's fine. But they're still Klingons. You not liking them means two things to the showrunners; Jack and Shit.
As for personal grudge.... Let's say it's neither personal, or a grudge. But I will be honest that when I see you post, it's about complaining. And I'm kinda done with people being fans of something, but in the mean time only find time to post negative things about said fandom. And sofar, yeah, you're one of those fans. But personal implies you mean something to me. And I think you and I can both agree we mean nothing to each other.
I hope the difference in appearance is explained, and we see a mix of Ridged, Smooth, and these "Sharp" Klingons. Change for the sake of change, is not always good IMO
I'm pretty forgiving about stuff like this.
Post proof or retract.
Oh God. No more 'explanations.' 'We don't discuss it with outsiders' had it covered the first time.
Star Trek's need to have alien species be near-uniform in appearance was ridiculous anyway. Why the hell wouldn't a single species have a variety of bone structures, eye and skin colours, amounts and colour of 'fur', etc?
Star Trek's need to have alien species be near-uniform in appearance was ridiculous anyway. Why the hell wouldn't a single species have a variety of bone structures, eye and skin colours, amounts and colour of 'fur', etc?
Also true of the Motion Picture Klingons, they looked nothing at all like the iconic characters fans loved. We got over it.
Appereantly not everyone.....
Well said @Mage! Agreed.
They look like a Motion Picture/Into Darkness hybrid. Interesting.
Glad they're making changes.
Also, PUNO (but that's okay)
Glad they're making changes.
Also, PUNO (but that's okay)
You know what actually worries me?
Not the appearance, although it is an extreme change - but the armor.
I mean, after all that has been said here on TrekBBS about how Klingons became a bad stereotype after "Heart of Glory" - do we want to entrench the space samurai thing further - do we really want them running around in some kind of artisan antique-shop armor? I was hoping for a move away from all that and toward Kor in "Errant of Mercy".
Yes, I'm hoping there is another explanation for this, either not being Klingons or being some kind of proto-Klingon from before the Hur'q invasion, to do with the rumored sarcophagus ship. Maybe Klingons indeed have inter-bred with other species over the following centuries. Maybe that will even be a plot point - a race that thinks of itself as pure, is, like all others, mulatto.
I still think this was a move in the right direction for Klingons:
Not the appearance, although it is an extreme change - but the armor.
I mean, after all that has been said here on TrekBBS about how Klingons became a bad stereotype after "Heart of Glory" - do we want to entrench the space samurai thing further - do we really want them running around in some kind of artisan antique-shop armor? I was hoping for a move away from all that and toward Kor in "Errant of Mercy".
Yes, I'm hoping there is another explanation for this, either not being Klingons or being some kind of proto-Klingon from before the Hur'q invasion, to do with the rumored sarcophagus ship. Maybe Klingons indeed have inter-bred with other species over the following centuries. Maybe that will even be a plot point - a race that thinks of itself as pure, is, like all others, mulatto.
I still think this was a move in the right direction for Klingons:
Heck, it is having a hard time even being that from the look of things. Where are the gold tops and sparkling pants Klingons?!?
Interesting. I really like the look, though it does make me wish modern Trek incarnations would drop the pretense of being anything other than a hard reboot. It's well past the point where a wink and a nod can allow me to pretend this is all part of a single coherent reality.
Anyway, the uniforms look great as does the makeup. Interesting that they put a literal spin on the design by moving the ridges to the back of the head. My only concern is the way the heads are designed makes them more interesting (and more identifiably Klingon) from the back than from the front. Maybe we'll be starting at the backs of a lot of heads in this one, if the rumors about Klingon diplomacy are correct?
Anyway, the uniforms look great as does the makeup. Interesting that they put a literal spin on the design by moving the ridges to the back of the head. My only concern is the way the heads are designed makes them more interesting (and more identifiably Klingon) from the back than from the front. Maybe we'll be starting at the backs of a lot of heads in this one, if the rumors about Klingon diplomacy are correct?
This is where I'm at. Don't see Discovery as anything other than a reboot.
TOS era:
Re-imagined for The Motion Picture:
Refined in TNG and DS9:
Re-imagined for JJ Abrams Star Trek:
Possible re-imagining number three for Discovery:
Re-imagined for The Motion Picture:
Refined in TNG and DS9:
Re-imagined for JJ Abrams Star Trek:
Possible re-imagining number three for Discovery:
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