Voyager, sorry.... what ? moments.
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The whole thing where 'We don't have enough resources for coffee but we can use the holodeck as much as we want' was pretty thinly justified. Okay, incompatible power systems, in Star Trek it's established you can use pretty much anything to power anything. If you can't use this obviously huge power source for your basic survival, get a damn task force on it and use those brilliant engineering brains to find a way.
Oops, no, we have to try to keep it going 24/7 to hang out in a charming Irish village.
Oops, no, we have to try to keep it going 24/7 to hang out in a charming Irish village.
Absolutely. In Extreme Risk, B'Elanna improvises a temporary force field for a crack in the hull of the Flyer with a phaser and something else.
Haven't you heard? Starfleet Engineers are legendary. They can turn rocks into replicators.
Well, they had basic survival and more. They had replicator use, they just rationed it. They traded for food, grew their own and gathered it on planets.
and on a trip of 70 years they need the holodeck. Without that they would go completely crazy
And I think by the last few seasons, they had become "street smart" And knew the tricks of finding good ports, good trade, how to mine ore the most effectively, etc. If they didn't, they'd be incompetent if nothing else.
A gum wrapper and really happy thoughts. B'Elanna was Voyager's version of Macgyver on many occasions.
Maybe Scotty would think her a fellow miracle worker.
Another therory: Replicators may use more energy then the Holodeck: When 200 people want something to eat, it has to replicate 200 meals. The Holodeck does only have to replicate certain things during the run of a program and most of that is only projected and not replicated.
But he came on the bridge freely...Perhaps Janeway invented this whole "replicator rations" policy to give Neelix a purpose, or to keep him out of more sensitive aeras of the ship.
Picard never taught him the honor system used on SF ships.But he came on the bridge freely...
"Get that man off my bridge!"
When the replicators produce food, or parts for the ship, resources are used. It's not so much the power that it takes..... Anything that the holodeck "replicates" gets recycled when the program ends.
If you order a steak dinner from the replicator, the plate gets recycled, and your........waste gets recycled, but all of the important stuff from the food is gone.
If you order a steak dinner from the replicator, the plate gets recycled, and your........waste gets recycled, but all of the important stuff from the food is gone.
Anyone notice that even by season 7 the ship and especially the interior looked brand new. The carpet, upholstery, walls, screens.
You never ever see anyone doing any cleaning as far as I can remember but after 7 years of explosions, invading aliens, space anomalies, general foot traffic, greasy sweaty humans and Neelix's cooking Voyager should of looked pretty shabby inside and out.
Remember when the Hirgoen captured the ship and tore out like 5 decks to create a massive empty space for a giant holodeck. Then the next episode the ship was perfectly repaired.
That was bizarre even for Trek standards, 6+ months or more in a Star Fleet dry dock would of been needed to fix that.
You never ever see anyone doing any cleaning as far as I can remember but after 7 years of explosions, invading aliens, space anomalies, general foot traffic, greasy sweaty humans and Neelix's cooking Voyager should of looked pretty shabby inside and out.
Remember when the Hirgoen captured the ship and tore out like 5 decks to create a massive empty space for a giant holodeck. Then the next episode the ship was perfectly repaired.
That was bizarre even for Trek standards, 6+ months or more in a Star Fleet dry dock would of been needed to fix that.
There's only 40 minutes of story telling time. Do you really need any of that time taken up by watching someone vacuum?
I guess we just have to pretend that they set Voyager down on a planet somewhere as long as it took to repair all that damage.
People have been entertaining themselves just fine for all of human history without having a limitless consequenceless pleasurefield. I'm sure 24th century humans can manage the same.
For most of the show Voyager wasn't low on resources and in those cases it made sense for holodecks to be available. When they were low enough on power to ration food, they can go off.
I don't buy the argument that because holodeck matter is reclaimed it's somehow a zero energy system. First of all, entropy bitchez. Turning energy to matter then reclaiming it is going to have inherent waste. Second of all, running forcefields with fine motor precision and specific textures and manipulating light finely has got to take more energy than just the energy it takes to manifest the matter.
Also it's a little strange the writers never thought of giving the ship the ability to fully repower just by hanging out really near to a star for a little while.
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