Missed opportunities in Trek?

[Devilpogostick]

However her relationship with David is not canon, the movies never implied one. Maybe its in the novels (shrugs). They did not even come across as friends, just colleagues on a mission. But it is a shame she was not a baddie in the movie, there are some good fanfics where she is just as guilty but due to Valaris loyalty to her she is never caught.

True, but still David pretty much sacrifice his life still...Not to mention the senselessness from his death probably made a convincing case that the Klingons are just not the kind of people to get a lasting peace with. David was basically a civilian and the Klingons involved just straight up killed him (I mean he resisted but he was unarmed and probably would do little anyway). Saavik is a Starfleet officer who just saw a Federation civilian die on her watch saving her.

While the relationship thing is iffy (heck, I agree with you on that now that I think about it), I still think that event could shook her up to not give the Klingons leeway about talking things out because she saw an attempt and it didn't work out.

 

[Nyotarules]

True, but still David pretty much sacrifice his life still...Not to mention the senselessness from his death probably made a convincing case that the Klingons are just not the kind of people to get a lasting peace with. David was basically a civilian and the Klingons involved just straight up killed him (I mean he resisted but he was unarmed and probably would do little anyway). Saavik is a Starfleet officer who just saw a Federation civilian die on her watch saving her.

While the relationship thing is iffy (heck, I agree with you on that now that I think about it), I still think that event could shook her up to not give the Klingons leeway about talking things out because she saw an attempt and it didn't work out.

True, since she was a young, inexperienced Starfleet officer just graduated from the SFA and not raised in the Vulcan culture, David's senseless death would shake her up. But would it push her to betray Spock????

 

[Silvercrest]

Berlinghoff Rasmussen should have appeared in ENT.

 

[Devilpogostick]

True, since she was a young, inexperienced Starfleet officer just graduated from the SFA and not raised in the Vulcan culture, David's senseless death would shake her up. But would it push her to betray Spock????

Well, think of it this way. You respect and care for someone whose proven time and time again why he/she earned it from you. But then you realize they have one certain viewpoint you just can't bend over to agree with nor do you feel confident to admit how you felt to such a person in fear of losing what respect they have for you. I mean you think they're seriously wrong...But you still care about them despite undermining their views with the feeling you're doing them a favor and it blows up in your face when they find out.

...But I'm probably thinking bout this if the movie was written for Saavik instead of Valeris since it might be obvious to change things to make it fit for the character.

 

[The Wormhole]

Berlinghoff Rasmussen should have appeared in ENT.

Meh, that wasn't a particularly memorable episode anyway.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Memorably annoying for me.

 

[ChristopherPike]

No disrespect to Matt Frewer, but Rasmussen should've been played by Robin Williams.

 

[Voth commando1]

WW3 series period.

 

[Shawnster]

No disrespect to Matt Frewer, but Rasmussen should've been played by Robin Williams.

As originally intended? I think it was a scheduling conflict that prevented this. From what I read.

 

[ChristopherPike]

As originally intended? I think it was a scheduling conflict that prevented this. From what I read.

Pretty much. Of course I have no real understanding of how much it might've costed, delaying an episode from going into production, until the interested actor becomes available. Just think Williams at that point, would've been a huge draw... Not that TNG wasn't huge at the time, I suppose.

There was the possibility of Brando as Soran in Generations, which I really can't see working at all. Three old men fighting out in Death Valley. One very definitely not up to 150 degrees in the shade... and then having to go back, a couple of months later to refilm the whole thing, because Kirk getting shot in the back doesn't cut it. Maybe it would've had to stay that way, if it's Brando randomly killing Kirk over a more re-hirable McDowell.

 

[Ralphis]

When the Enterprise pilot first aired, I was absolutely certain Future Guy was a post-TNG era Romulan trying to change the events of the Earth-Romulan War. I realize now there was never a real plan for Future Guy, and I know the Temporal Cold War story-line went nowhere, BUT... I still think it would have worked. Kind of. Sort of. I don't know...

 

[Ralphis]

They'd been layin the ground work through the entire series. It jut wasn't as in your face as Season Four.

This times infinity plus another infinity!!

 

[ChristopherPike]

I think Future Guy is the odd one out among those projections directing TCW factions, for knowing they have to hide their appearance. The female Sphere Builder talking to the Xindi Council sees no reason to blur their shape. We never saw whoever was doing the same for the Tholians, but they obviously must've had their own benefactor. You know that episode where the NX-01 came across that time-travel pod containing a humanoid with several generations worth of combined alien ancestors...

It comes down to FG either being instantly recognisable for WHO they are - so Archer, as much as I'm not wild about Braga's idea.

Or WHAT they are - their species and whatever significance that has to the Suliban standing in front of them.

It's still a wide open field though. You can literally write whoever into that reveal, with enough groundwork laid. I suppose that's the point. So they have whole later seasons in which to turn something that sounds convoluted as a summary, into organically grown over many episodes. Although to make it Archer, I think they'd have had to ruin the character really.. unless it's somehow possible to resurrect his Mirror Universe counterpart.

Had Season 5 done the Romulan War, it would've been cool to show the Suliban still in contact with FG... At least long enough for the reveal they've outlived their usefulness in some long game.

 

[gamer1]

They could have made a interesting show about the military of the UFP.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They could have made a interesting show about the military of the UFP.

Isn't that show called "Star Trek"?

 

[gamer1]

Isn't that show called "Star Trek"?

No.

 

[Nerys Myk]

No.

Explain that one. Star Trek is about a ship that defends the Federation. But it's not a show about the military of the UFP?

 

[Nyotarules]

Because Starfleet is not the military, Picard and nuScotty said so. (All the evidence states otherwise).

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because Starfleet is not the military Picard and nuScotty said so. (All the evidence states otherwise).

Yep, armed ships fighting wars are not military.

 

[wayoung]

This argument again?