No, it wasn't.The reason Kara and Mon-El ended up where they did was because they followed a physical paper trail showing that Izzy and all the other people who had disappeared had disappeared shortly after having bloodwork done.
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No, it wasn't.The reason Kara and Mon-El ended up where they did was because they followed a physical paper trail showing that Izzy and all the other people who had disappeared had disappeared shortly after having bloodwork done.
Yes, that's what was on paper, but that doesn't make it true. I interpreted the claim of "tests" as merely a facade. As I said, there was nothing behind the front lobby but the empty warehouse and the portal. And the guy led Kara and Mon-El back even though they'd made no prior appointment -- heck, they hadn't even filled out the applications.
Such details aside, I don't believe the writers have any intention of doing a metahuman/Dominator story here. Probably the reason they used the Dominator was because they spent a lot of money on the digital model and wanted to get more use out of it, and because they like their Easter eggs and continuity nods. It could've been any alien that came to buy the slaves and bowed at Mon-El, but it was convenient to put a Dominator into that role. I doubt there's any more to it than that.
I doubt there was any metahuman connection, but I interpreted the blood test thing to be genuine. I just thought it was administered someplace else (like the BtVS episode someone already mentioned). I thought the scene where the regular people got shoved in started with the doctor saying that their tests had been perfect (ie, the tests had already been done long enough to have results ready) and there was also a comment about Roulette always finding 'perfect candidates' which implies a certain level of testing, as well. Also, the paperwork about the blood tests that led to the warehouse said the tests were administered 3 days before the disappearances.
I think Mon El and Supergirl were taken as a security measure, because random people dropping in is suspicious, not because there was no candidate profile to test them against.
We don't know how long this slave ring had been operational for, but it'd be really hard to falsify medical records for every person who disappeared because of it, and yet it is the medical records of said people that led Kara and Mon-El to that warehouse, as noted.
If Superman is universally famous, her shirt should have freaked them the #### out.
His Krytonian red son weakness may be well known. Plus, the "S" could be the equivalent of wearing the logo of your favorite sports team.
Just a frail little woman who should run away, eh?
No need to misrepresent the following:
As noted by another member, it was suicidal. It would be a ridiculous as a regular human attempting to fight the Chitauri from Marvel's The Avengers. Good intentions with no conceivable way of accomplishing a goal overflowing with danger is not sensible or heroic.
Heroism can be false when its sold (in a story) against basic rationality. There's a difference between fighting against odds and situations that are flat-out suicidal, all just to make the character appear brave. Consider this: In and out of series, James is criticized or doubted for wanting fight crime--despite the fact he's in a protective suit using high tech weapons, yet he's seen as being in over his head, yet a power-free SG is heroic and in the right for attempting to fight against alien slavers she had no real intel on, including their weapons, assets, or allies. The difference in character perception / treatment is rather glaring.
Many of the themes of this series are of an adult nature, and has an equally adult viewer base, like most of the live action superhero productions.
That is better handled in the brilliant Hidden Figures. Based on real life events--and one of the most important projects in human history--would (IMO) serve just about everything you said above.
She may be too dumb/brain damaged to anticipate what failure looks like.
Although destroying the slave ring was the only way home.
So it wasn't bravery at all, it was practicality.
Two aliens from advanced planets couldn't get the stargate to dial home?
WTF?
Do you think Supergirl would have made a good slave?
If Kara wasn't going to accept conditioning, and do what her masters said with a smile, she was going to be eaten for dinner eventually.
Oh.
Kara could dial home.
Becuase she is intelligent and as familiar with the technology as J'onn.
She didn't go back to Earth, because the other humans had to be rescued half an hour faster than it would have taken to go back and get the tactical team that showed up anyway.
Yup.
What an arrogant Dummy.
Although destroying the slave ring was the only way home.
So it wasn't bravery at all, it was practicality.
Two aliens from advanced planets couldn't get the stargate to dial home?
WTF?
Do you think Supergirl would have made a good slave?
If Kara wasn't going to accept conditioning, and do what her masters said with a smile, she was going to be eaten for dinner eventually.
Oh.
Kara could dial home.
Becuase she is intelligent and as familiar with the technology as J'onn.
She didn't go back to Earth, because the other humans had to be rescued half an hour faster than it would have taken to go back and get the tactical team that showed up anyway.
Yup.
What an arrogant Dummy.
Clearly it wasn't since she survived.
Heroes get put in impossible situations all the time, why is it suddenly a problem that Supergirl was put in one such situation?
Besides, it's not like that was her original plan, she told Mon-El to get help but he screwed up, so what was she supposed to do? Just sit and wait and do nothing? Is that what you would expect of Superman as well?
Black Widow did alright
Of course, but adults should realize that what they're watching is essentially originally intended for kids and adjust their expectations accordingly, the pure logic of the story isn't as important as the moral of it.
The real asshole was Prince Mon-El.
As a loyal customer, he has an account with the slavers, and could have just bought back the humans without going through that rigmarole.
As a loyal customer, he has an account with the slavers, and could have just bought back the humans without going through that rigmarole.
Maybe he didn't leave because of the explosions, maybe he actually escaped from Daxam because his parents took away his credit cards.
Good points. I'd forgotten most of that.
Yes - in pretty much the same way Batman and Robin (from the 1966 series) survived all the death traps - IE because the writers wrote it that way. Again, I don't mind the occasional bit of camp or 'dumb' heroism - but again, sorry - for her as a regular 20something humanoid to go against an enclave of trained slave traders with high tech weaponry isn't 'heroic' - it's stupid/suicidal; and given what the Arrowverse shows have been going for in general, just too ridiculous here (IMO).Clearly it wasn't since she survived.
It probably isn't, but that should be the end of Roulette. The slavers just lost a conserable investment in human stock, and the Dominators wanted humans. Well they have at least one standing there. The portal is most likely going to be dismantled on the Earth side, so what good is she to the slavers except a token replacement to the Dominators.
I wouldn't count Roulette out. She's pretty good at talking aliens into things.
Kara under the effects of a red sun is no different from her foster sister under the effects of a yellow sun, yet no one calls Alex "stupid" for rushing in to save Kara a dozen times each season.
Heroes always rush into the burning building as we run away from it . That is their true superpower and we worship them for it.
Actually, when the odds are that ridiculous, yes we do. Alex was a complete moron when she forced her way onto the team to come back into National City while Non had a brain-washing device turning every human into his puppet. If she hadn't come, Jonn could've had an actual chance of helping Kara and Kara would not have been forced to fight her own sister to get at the bad guy.
Men have been doing this in movies and TV series forever, not just superheroes, but cops, firemen, regular folk, rushing into burning buildings/gunfire/earthquakes/whatever without blinking to save their friends/family/cats/the world. They're called brave, or at the very worst reckless.
But when women do it, they're morons and stupid?
Do you realize how that sounds?
This isn't the same situation, though. In that case, there were other people on the case who were more capable of helping than Alex was, so she couldn't contribute much and even impeded J'onn's ability to help. In this case, the slaves had nobody to help them except Supergirl. And she did have an advantage that they didn't, namely experience at fighting evil and staying strong in the face of danger. She let herself endure the Maaldorians' torture in order to show the other captives that you could stand up to oppression even without superpowers. She didn't do it because she thought she could save them by herself; she did it in order to inspire them to save themselves. And it worked. They rose up collectively, came to her defense, and overcame the slavers. Which is exactly what she intended the outcome to be. It was anything but stupid. It was the same calculated choice that's been made by many great fighters against oppression throughout history, people like Rosa Parks and Gandhi and that guy who stood in front of the tanks at Tiananmen Square. When oppressors use fear and force to control a population, someone needs to show them that they have to stand up and fight it anyway, no matter the cost. If they all overcome their fear and stand up as a group, they can prevail. Remember what the symbol on Supergirl's chest means: "Stronger together."
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