Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[Guy Gardener]

Kara instantly distrusts any one with lead lined clothing.

It all has to be lead lined.

Unless Kara is a huge prude s... How does the X-Ray Vision work here?

Is she seeing through walls and clothes like in the old movies, or is she seeing bones like in Smallville?

 

[dahj]

Kinda surprised to see so many negative reactions.
I really liked the episode, it was both heartwarming and one of the funnier episodes in a while.

It wasn't centered on anything big, just simply finding a missing girl, and Kara and Mon-El got to be heroes without their powers, Winn's finding a hero within also complemented that nicely.

Alex had some great sisterly moments with Kara and it was just too cute and cheesy and sweet to see her happy with Maggie. And yeah, there was a bit of drama, but at least that came from a real place and her reaction was understandable and not some contrived silliness.

And on top of that it was also full of small fun moments, like Snapper being stuck between James and Kara, Mon-El and Kara going undercover, and Jo was a hoot...

No giant spider beasts(outside of a stew) though. Half a point deduction.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Mary Richards

RIP.

 

[Commander Richard]

Winn's finding a hero within also complemented that nicely.

And he got to set foot on another planet. I would have missed that fact if they hadn't shown his excitement.

I wonder if this was a first for the others as well, like Alex.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She flew Kara's ship really easily last season.

As kids Alex and Kara may have hot rodded all around the Solar system.

 

[Commander Richard]

She flew Kara's ship really easily last season.

I've always wondered how she got Kara back to Earth. It's not like she could have opened the canopy to get her.

 

[dahj]

I wonder if this was a first for the others as well, like Alex.

Alex was on Krypton last season.
Well, fake Krypton inside Kara's head, but it still counts!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Just had to push her back into the gravity well.

Kara still had all her powers.

Invulnerability.

It just so happens in this odd version of Supergirl lore that Kryptonians cannot fly in space.

 

[Commander Richard]

Well, fake Krypton inside Kara's head, but it still counts!

I didn't count that because it was a simulation.

Just had to push her back into the gravity well.

That works.

 

[Snaploud]

Alex should not be leading troops into combat. A first year cadet (in any military) would know to secure your one transport home. That means leaving behind more than one guy who a) does not appear to have any reasonable level of field training and b) will be distracted the whole time while interacting with alien tech.

Side note: I agree that Winn needs to build his own super suit. He doesn't need all the same functionality as the Guardian, but he should have some emergency protection when out in the field.

 

[Aragorn]

Alex should not be leading troops into combat. A first year cadet (in any military) would know to secure your one transport home. That means leaving behind more than one guy who a) does not appear to have any reasonable level of field training and b) will be distracted the whole time while interacting with alien tech.

It really doesn't matter because the stakes always feel so low on this show. There's a lot of life-or-death, world-ending situations on this show, but you never feel the danger they're in.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I have to say, I really like the direction they're going with Alex. She's slowly becoming one of my favorite characters on the show. But I still hate the fact that she ordered Winn to go and then left him to fend for himself. Especially because the show literally had to go out of its way to make the alien who attacked him slow, stupid and unlucky - not to mention being the only evil alien who coincidentally didn't travel in a group - just to give him any chance at all (which still wasn't really believable).

Maybe the danger doesn't feel real to a lot of the audience, but it should be at least a little bit real to the characters, particularly when Winn's whole story here is about him being panicked to be on the front line. Is it really that much to ask that supposedly professional characters dial back the stupidity to something a little bit less than brain crushing insanity?

 

[Skipper]

It really doesn't matter because the stakes always feel so low on this show. There's a lot of life-or-death, world-ending situations on this show, but you never feel the danger they're in.

Well, Alex was very, very worried about the influence that these world-ending situations has on her relationship!

 

[Vendikarr]

The Dominators in the arrowverse seem to be all about super powered individuals. The slavers were only looking for humans wish something special determined by a blood test. Then the Dominators bought the entire herd, or did they requisiton humans to begin with.

Perhaps the blood test was to find humans with the metagene, and Supergirl's Earth may be one accident away from having their own metahumans.

 

[Christopher]

Side note: I agree that Winn needs to build his own super suit. He doesn't need all the same functionality as the Guardian, but he should have some emergency protection when out in the field.

Or he could just stay in the van. Maybe trick it out with armor and defensive gear.

The Dominators in the arrowverse seem to be all about super powered individuals. The slavers were only looking for humans wish something special determined by a blood test. Then the Dominators bought the entire herd, or did they requisiton humans to begin with.

They didn't actually take a blood test, remember. The medical-test thing was just a ruse to get people there. The slaver said he was bringing people in to take the test, then just shoved them into the stargate.

Just because the Dominators saw the rise of metahumans on Earth as a threat, that doesn't mean it was the only concern of their entire civilization -- just the only one that gave them a reason to interact with us. Like any civilization, they must have many different concerns and goals, and different groups within their culture with different priorities. We know the Earth-38 Dominators attacked Krypton in the past, and Kryptonians don't have superpowers on their own planet. (Although if they traveled the stars as actively as the show implies, they must've discovered their yellow-sun powers well before Kal-El and Kara were sent to Earth.)

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I have to be honest in that I thought the entire episode was just bad. And the character lives up to the name of 'Stupid-Girl' in this one. Sorry, but when you know you're in one of the most dangerous places in the Galaxy, but due to being back under a Red Sun, you're now a normal 20-something average woman...

Sorry to say: "I'm going in anyway and we're going to save these people..." is just stupid, suicidal and insane; even in a comic book based universe.

True. Its typical of the series to have SG act as if she's so dedicated to saving lives, but without her powers, she's not a tactician, fighter or anyone who should do anything other than reconsider her options. That's false heroism at the expense of the story on part of the writers, instead of playing it in a realistic sense, where there's consequences for running into situations beyond your skill or understanding. That would have been a decent dramatic turn to place the character in the same position she faced in season one--only she actually has to fully rely on others to handle the rescue.

And I love how Jonn can't wear a heavy duty hazard suit (with oxygen); or hell just a heavy duty oxygen mask or something.

That's the end result of Plot and Supergirl-must-be-the-best-at-all-times Convenience. The PTB could not have Jonn--with his formidable powers--go to that world and save the say, since it would "show up" Supergirl. In Captain America: Civil War, Rogers did not have to be constantly propped up as the best in every moment, because the plot (at least) demanded that he could be ethically and physically challenged as anyone else, despite the fact it was his movie. You will not see that in Supergirl, as the writers cheerlead her no matter the cost to rational plotting.

Again, I can overlook some 'idiot ball' based story aspects - but not when the 'idiot ball' aspects grow to the size they did here.

Agreed.

One review compared this show to kids putting on an awful play but you enjoy it anyway because they're just so cute and trying really hard. That's probably the best analogy I've seen regarding Supergirl.

The problem is that the series--or the PTB--sell the show as some adventure/soapbox and does not write itself off as the equivalent of a kid's play, so there will never be a period where the writers see the need to analyze the good and bad, make changes where clearly needed, and avoid the traps set in season one. There are few good "bones" to the series (James and Winn's growing friendship, the Guardian, Cadmus, etc.), but its outnumbered by less than quality plots.

 

[Vendikarr]

They didn't actually take a blood test, remember. The medical-test thing was just a ruse to get people there. The slaver said he was bringing people in to take the test, then just shoved them into the stargate.

Kara and Mon-El didn't take a blood test. I am going othave to watch it again, but the slaver commented to them something like how they were stronger and would be able to survive a stronger life of work or something.

 

[Marc]

Side note: I agree that Winn needs to build his own super suit. He doesn't need all the same functionality as the Guardian, but he should have some emergency protection when out in the field

or he could simply stay in the van and work from there.

What happened to Winn in Monday's ep was his own stupid fault. He got cocky and it came back to bite him (instead of cheering himself, the first step would have been to at the very least remove the gun).

 

[dahj]

Its typical of the series to have SG act as if she's so dedicated to saving lives, but without her powers, she's not a tactician, fighter or anyone who should do anything other than reconsider her options.

Just a frail little woman who should run away, eh?

That's false heroism

Can heroism be false? How does that even apply here? Isn't standing up when you know you're against the odds the definition of heroism? Are you really suggesting that she should only win when the odds are heavily stacked in her favour?

Kara isn't perfect and isn't the best at all times, she makes mistakes, she learn from them and she never stops trying to be a better hero. She's a great role model for young girls, and the thing you don't seem to realize is that this is a show primarily aimed at young girls. It's meant to empower, and to show that girls can make a difference, with or without powers if they stand up for themselves and for others.

 

[Christopher]

Kara and Mon-El didn't take a blood test. I am going othave to watch it again, but the slaver commented to them something like how they were stronger and would be able to survive a stronger life of work or something.

But the slaver didn't know who they were yet when he led them in. There was the outer lobby of the "clinic," then they were led through the door and there was just the empty warehouse with the portal. There was no place where a blood test could have been drawn. And earlier in the episode, we saw a human being brought through the same door from the lobby and just pushed into the portal. There was no actual blood test, for anyone.